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  • Onur
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 2389

    Genes mirror geography within Europe

    Genes mirror geography within Europe

    Recent studies suggest that by combining high-throughput genotyping technologies with dense geographic samples one can shed light on unanswered questions regarding human population structure


    The investigation:
    We surveyed genetic variation in a sample of 3,192 European individuals… genotyped at 500,568 loci… When available, we used the country of origin of each individual’s grandparents to determine the geographic location that best represents each individual’s ancestry, otherwise we used the self-reported country of birth… we focus our analyses on genotype data from 197,146 loci in 1,387 individuals for whom we have high confidence of individual origins.


    The work gives some very strong results:
    Individuals from the same geographic region cluster together and major populations are distinguishable. Geographically adjacent populations typically abut each other, and recognizable geographical features of Europe such as the Iberian peninsula, the Italian peninsula, southeastern Europe, Cyprus and Turkey are apparent. The data reveal structure even among French-, German- and Italian-speaking groups within Switzerland, and between Ireland and the United Kingdom.




    Figure 1 | Population structure within Europe;
    A statistical summary of genetic data from 1,387 Europeans based on principal component axis one (PC1) and axis two (PC2). Small coloured labels represent individuals and large coloured points represent median PC1 and PC2 values for each country. The inset map provides a key to the labels. The PC axes are rotated to emphasize the similarity to the geographic map of Europe.
    AL, Albania; AT, Austria; BA, Bosnia-Herzegovina; BE, Belgium; BG, Bulgaria; CH, Switzerland; CY, Cyprus; CZ, Czech Republic; DE, Germany; DK, Denmark; ES, Spain; FI, Finland; FR, France; GB, United Kingdom; GR, Greece; HR, Croatia; HU, Hungary; IE, Ireland; IT, Italy; KS, Kosovo; LV, Latvia; MK, Macedonia; NO, Norway; NL, Netherlands; PL, Poland; PT, Portugal; RO, Romania; RS, Serbia and Montenegro; RU, Russia, Sct, Scotland; SE, Sweden; SI, Slovenia; SK, Slovakia; TR, Turkey; UA, Ukraine; YG, Yugoslavia.




    Some findings according to the figure;
    • While eastern countries shows relatively divers genes, western ones are relatively more homogeneous.

    • The most genetically divers countries in Europe are; Italy, Greece, Yugoslavia and Turkey in order.

    • The most genetically homogeneous countries in Europe are; Portugal-Spain, Ireland, Great Britain, Switzerland in order

    • Northern Italians shows genetically relationship with Swiss, Spanish and some French in order. Southern Italians(Sicily, Sardinia, Tuscany) are genetically more closer to Greeks, Turks, Cypriots and Albanians. Some southern Italians are even more genetically related with Greeks and Turks than their northern countrymen.

    • Greeks shows genetically relationship with southern Italians, Albanians, Turks, Yugoslavians, Macedonians, Kosovo, Cypriots in order.

    • While Aegean Turks shows genetically relationship with Greeks, Southern Italians, Albanians and Yugoslavians in order, Northern(Blacksea) Turks are genetically more close to Kosovo, Yugoslavians, Greeks, Albanians and Macedonians in order.

    • Macedonians are genetically close to Yugoslavians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Albanians and Kosovo in order. On the other hand, Macedonian`s genetic closeness to the Croatians are about same as their closeness to the northern Turks and much lesser then Romanians or Bulgarians.

    • Bosnians, Serbians, Croatians, Slovenians creates a genetically related group within each other.

    • Slovenians and Croatians are genetically more related with Hungarians, rather than Macedonians.




    Some unexpected! findings;
    • Greeks of Greece shows more closer relationship to Albanians, Southern Italians and Turks, rather than Greek Cypriots!!!

    • Southern Italians and southern(Mediterranean) Turks are more closely related to Greek Cypriots than Greeks of Greece!!!



    Sources:
    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nature07331.html

    http://www.eeb.ucla.edu/Faculty/Novembre/Novembreetal2008Nature.pdf
    Last edited by Onur; 04-22-2010, 05:03 AM.
  • Daniel the Great
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1084

    #2
    Wow mail2onur that is very interesting information.




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    • fyrOM
      Banned
      • Feb 2010
      • 2180

      #3
      It is good to have empirical evidence but it only confirms what many people have seen with their own eyes. More evidence like this is needed to shut the liars up

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      • Rogi
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2343

        #4
        Genetic evidence due in a couple of weeks time is being waited upon to prove or disprove whether the Dutch, who allegedly settled Australia before the First Fleet, interbred with the Aboriginals with whom they allegedly made contact.

        Supposedly, genetic evidence of this sort had made a lot of headway and now has enough credence to be taken serious, rather than brushed away and ignored as was the case just a few years ago.

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        • Coolski
          Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 747

          #5
          Thanks for posting Rogi... very interesting and useful information.
          - Секој чоек и нација има можност да успеат колку шо си дозволуваат. Нема изговор.
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          • Risto the Great
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 15658

            #6
            Genetics, shmenetics .... I have it on good authority that all you have to do is feel a certain nationality and you will instantly become a mythical Zeus-like creature ... toga'n'all.
            Risto the Great
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            • fyrOM
              Banned
              • Feb 2010
              • 2180

              #7
              RTG every country has their own entry requirement all you have to do is check you soul and your sanity at the door and sware to be one of them and nothing else so help you…. Or is that hell im thinking of.

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              • Volk
                Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 894

                #8
                what the hell is a Yugoslav?

                Also these kind of tests are flawed for the following reason:

                They test a "greek" who is actually a Macedonian by blood, all of a sudden DNA evidence 'proves' a genetic link between the two... give me a break
                Makedonija vo Srce

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                • Onur
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2389

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Volk View Post
                  what the hell is a Yugoslav?
                  Yeah, i was wondering the same. According to map on the figure, its the people living between Kosovo(KS) and Serbia&Montenegro(RS).





                  Originally posted by Volk View Post
                  They test a "greek" who is actually a Macedonian by blood, all of a sudden DNA evidence 'proves' a genetic link between the two... give me a break
                  Yes, thats the point already. It proves that the ancient and/or medieval times, people who lived close to each other intermarried between each other regardless of religion, language or whatever. So, the concept of "Pure race" is just a myth of 20th century.






                  Southern Italians(Sicily, Sardinia, Tuscany) are genetically more closer to Greeks, Turks, Cypriots and Albanians. Some southern Italians are even more genetically related with Greeks and Turks than their northern countrymen.
                  Another proof for the theory of Etruscan immigrants who came from Aegean Anatolia to the Southern Italy???





                  * Bosnians, Serbians, Croatians, Slovenians creates a genetically related group within each other.

                  * Slovenians and Croatians are genetically more related with Hungarians, rather than Macedonians.


                  This is kinda unusual if you consider that Bosnians, Serbians, Croatians lived together with Macedonians at "Yugoslavia" days but according to the test results, most Macedonians didn't intermarry with them.

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                  • blackcactus
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 242

                    #10
                    Nice post

                    I wonder how historians and archeologists will use data like this in regards to the Slav migration theory, or any other theory for that matter?

                    The evidence is piling up piece by piece, a bit like forensics at a crime scene, DNA evidence is nearly always conclusive
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