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  • fyrOM
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    • Feb 2010
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    Diaspora Lottery Agency

    I first raised this issue as a response to posts in the thread Greek Antiquization Sponsored by EU funds but felt to continue it in this thread was too unrelated hence this thread.


    RTG or anyone how do we get the idea of the Macedonian lottery agency fixing their website to

    1. Allow internet purchases of tickets.

    2. Include a self management account where the client can deposit funds to buy tickets with and
    Small winnings are automatically deposited in for future use.

    3. Suggested ticket price about aud$5.00 to maximise sales

    4. Winning should be tax free and lump sum otherwise Australian uk and many others will be put off.

    to the appropriate department in the Macedonian government to be considered for implementation.


    The idea for the Macedonian lottery to fix their website to allow internet perchance was the simple idea. I have a greater challenge to the Macedonian organisations such as UMD or AMHRC ect.

    Diaspora Lottery Agency - A Better Agency
    I buy lottery tickets here in Australia and sometimes from overseas. I noticed the overseas organisations also sold Australian tickets. It got me thinking could not the eg UMD set a division or subsidiary as a lottery agency for overseas and Australian tickets and get the commissions. This way people can log on to one site to by their Macedonian ticket and the other tickets from their own country and overseas. People will not stop buying other tickets in favour of the Macedonian one only. Think of the number of tickets people buy in their own country and how much commission is generated every week. I also hear agencies in the USA also get a bonus commission in the millions for selling a winning ticket.

    This need not be exclusively for Macedonians but could serve to casually spread the word to friends and colleges as a convenient great place to buy any tickets. Don’t laugh. There are enough overseas lottery agencies and they must be making money. I understand www.mylotto24.co.uk is a listed company in Germany. Would anybody feel bad about buying the same lottery tickets they would have anyway from the eg UMD. Be Macedonian be proud and be better than the rest. Many such agencies have deficiencies in one form or another be it in web sit layout and functionality to the range of tickets they sell to the price they charge. Can the eg UMD build a better site. Think of the number of Macedonians in the wider diaspora who buy tickets and how many friends and colleges can they bring to the site. The numbers don’t look so small after all.
  • fyrOM
    Banned
    • Feb 2010
    • 2180

    #2
    spell check error colleges should be colleagues

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    • makedonche
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 3242

      #3
      OziMak
      Great idea, worth pursuing, I would like to see AMHRC running it if possible or arranging it, possibly done by MTO alternatively.
      On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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      • fyrOM
        Banned
        • Feb 2010
        • 2180

        #4
        Yeah…from reading other threads I get the feeling maybe the UMD might not be flavoured of the month despite the cool name. Just so its known I was not trying to show any preference to anyone only that it needs to be a Macedonian diaspora organisation with multiple branches and members who are citizens in any country you want to run as a lotto agency.

        I think it would be the better option to run a lotto agency to maximise revenue and give the diaspora a greater say in how and where it is spent. The simple idea of enabling the Macedonian lottery website to included internet purchases of tickets is very limiting in revenue and too restrictive in that it does not allow the diaspora any real say on how the money is spent. The lottery agency option would still allow the Macedonian government to direct funds from Macedonian ticket sales as they see fit without leaving the diaspora feeling disappointed and disheartened and maybe disempowered if funds were not directed towards issues they felt were more important.

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        • makedonche
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 3242

          #5
          Originally posted by OziMak View Post
          Yeah…from reading other threads I get the feeling maybe the UMD might not be flavoured of the month despite the cool name. Just so its known I was not trying to show any preference to anyone only that it needs to be a Macedonian diaspora organisation with multiple branches and members who are citizens in any country you want to run as a lotto agency.

          I think it would be the better option to run a lotto agency to maximise revenue and give the diaspora a greater say in how and where it is spent. The simple idea of enabling the Macedonian lottery website to included internet purchases of tickets is very limiting in revenue and too restrictive in that it does not allow the diaspora any real say on how the money is spent. The lottery agency option would still allow the Macedonian government to direct funds from Macedonian ticket sales as they see fit without leaving the diaspora feeling disappointed and disheartened and maybe disempowered if funds were not directed towards issues they felt were more important.
          OziMak
          That's why i suggested AMHRC, that way all funds will be put to effective use. To this day I don't know of any other government or NGO body that I would trust with money!
          On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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          • fyrOM
            Banned
            • Feb 2010
            • 2180

            #6
            So as not to create too many threads I thought I would drop it in here.

            Has anyone at say AMHRC or elsewhere considered a virtual phone company and ISP. The profits could go straight to aiding Macedonian issues campaigns.

            I was just thinking we surely have enough bright Macedonians in the various disciplines required to set up profitable businesses like the above or even energy retail. I was looking on the DoDo website and they don’t own any towers nor pipes yet are offering mobile voip isp and now energy discount deals. Cant a Macedonian non profit organization run something like this and use the funds to further the Macedonian cause.

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            • julie
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 3869

              #7
              OM, that sounds great, very innovative, my concern with your suggestion of UMD is they are not transparent with financials to the public as they should be.
              AMHRC is a great suggestion, however, with setting up need to be careful with taxation legislation and whether you are registering a separate company with ASIC, as a director you become personally liable , whether it is going to be a not for profit organisation etc ,
              "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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              • fyrOM
                Banned
                • Feb 2010
                • 2180

                #8
                Originally posted by OziMak View Post
                So as not to create too many threads I thought I would drop it in here.
                I was just recycling the thread to introduce the idea of a virtual mobile and ISP company, rates comparison site and Not about the lottery although it also fits the virtual bussiness idea. Rather than just asking for donations all the time hows about also earning a dollar in a lucrative business which doesn't require factories and making stuff.

                I dont realy know but heard that Greek interest are heavey in DoDo and Soul Mobile. I was thinking surelly we have intelegent Macedonians from the different disciplines to be able to do it ourselves. Organisation doesnt seem to be Macedonians strong point.

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                • George S.
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10116

                  #9
                  ""The lottery agency option would still allow the Macedonian government to direct funds from Macedonian ticket sales as they see fit without leaving the diaspora feeling disappointed and disheartened and maybe disempowered if funds were not directed towards issues they felt were more important""-.I wouldn't trust the macedonian govt with any money full stop.They got their own lottery.Why not just have a lottery & have a little gambling screen.
                  UMD managing money is out of the question as they are quirky with money.
                  Last edited by George S.; 03-12-2011, 11:22 AM. Reason: ed
                  "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                  GOTSE DELCEV

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                  • fyrOM
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 2180

                    #10
                    I knew there was a reason I hate the Greens...damn hippy greenie toffu eating tree huggers...and recycling.

                    Guys I was recycling the thread.

                    Guys the Lottery..although a good idea...is an old one that was shot down. Any ideas on a virtual phone and ISP compamy or a rates compare site...or getting really enthusiastic energy retail.

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