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  • Soldier of Macedon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13675

    Aleksandov........

    I am assuming it is you, if not, then disregard the following message.

    If it is you, I want to be the first to welcome you to the MTO. We were both unpleasant to each other a while ago, but for the sake of Macedonia, her betterment, and the overall benefit of the Macedonian people, I am prepared to put the past behind us.

    I hope you can appreciate that I don't need to do this, but I wanted to do it. If you still have intentions of carrying the bad blood over here, then I would advise that you don't waste your time. Otherwise, I have no issues with you being here, as you may have noticed, Tom and I have become friends, so there is no reason why we shouldn't. We don't have to like each other if that is your choice, but we will respect each other, and in that neither of us will have a choice.

    Welcome again.
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.
  • Jankovska
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1774

    #2
    Ohhh that's nice of you. You've become a bit of a softy

    Just kidding, haha

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    • Soldier of Macedon
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 13675

      #3
      Lol, wishful thinking on your part chupe
      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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      • VMRO
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 1464

        #4
        Very mature post dete.
        Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.

        Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.

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        • aleksandrov
          Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 558

          #5
          Yes, it's me, SoM.

          Thank you for your welcome. I am glad you feel as you do.

          I generally try not to take personal offense in political conflicts, as I consider unencumbered critical discourse to be essential for progress. Unfortunately, political conflicts often turn personal despite my intentions. But it's better to enforce a boundary between the political and personal late than ever. In our case, even our political differences aren't very fundamental, except for interpretations of particular periods in medieval history, which are by no means clear. I hope we can discuss them in a less touchy manner in future than we have in the past.
          All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer

          https://www.facebook.com/igor.a.aleksandrov?ref=tn_tnmn

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          • makedonche
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 3242

            #6
            Alexandrov
            Welcome - from your long time associate in Adelaide - hint, letter numbers 5,6,7 in the name!
            On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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            • aleksandrov
              Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 558

              #7
              Originally posted by makedonche View Post
              Alexandrov
              Welcome - from your long time associate in Adelaide - hint, letter numbers 5,6,7 in the name!
              Thanks, Makedonche. Good to find you here.
              All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer

              https://www.facebook.com/igor.a.aleksandrov?ref=tn_tnmn

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              • Rogi
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 2343

                #8
                Welcome aboard, imenjak

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                • makedonche
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 3242

                  #9
                  Alexandrov
                  I'm pleased to read your posts, what Iv'e discovered is that this forum is the most forward thinking, factual, tolerant, patriotic and fastest growing of any of the forums out there! Fools aren't tolerated here and lessons in history are abundant, everyone is free to voice their opinions but need to back them up with facts - as you know opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got one. What is becoming even more apparent is the ability of the Administrators and senior members to weed out infiltrators, encourage participation of new members and allow the members here the ability to have a say in holding anyone to account for their actions/words that are not in line with the stated "Macedonian Cause" - I strongly reccomend you have a read through the post.
                  Once again welcome and I look forward to some constructive banter!
                  On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                  • aleksandrov
                    Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 558

                    #10
                    Yes, it seems that way. That's why I've decided to reconsider my decision that internet forums with anonymous participants are a waste of valuable time and energy.
                    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer

                    https://www.facebook.com/igor.a.aleksandrov?ref=tn_tnmn

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                    • makedonche
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 3242

                      #11
                      I think you'll find the purpose to anonymity is protection of privacy from the shpioni as opposed protection from the members here, SOM explains it further on another post.
                      On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                      • Soldier of Macedon
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 13675

                        #12
                        It's good that you have reconsidered, I am confident that you will realise it as a sound and logical decision.
                        Originally posted by Aleksandrov
                        In our case, even our political differences aren't very fundamental, except for interpretations of particular periods in medieval history, which are by no means clear.
                        I look forward to discussing these with you in due time. I recall that you were quite fond of Basil II the Macedonian, there is some excellent and revealing information about this character in the history forums, just use the search function at the top of the page to locate them, most have been presented to us by TrueMacedonian.
                        In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                        • aleksandrov
                          Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 558

                          #13
                          You must have misunderstood me, SoM. I am personally not really fond of any despotic monarch in history, even though some of them have done certain things that have proven to be fundamentally beneficial to civilization. If I endorse the naming of any person or monument after such a monarch, it is usually because of a specific event or element in the history of Macedonian or world civilization the monarch's rule symbolizes, rather than a general adoration for the monarch himself. My argument with you was about the historic trail of the Macedonian identity and the Macedonian Orthodox Church as an institution that carries that identity (which, as I believe you will agree, does not necessarily equal blood-line). But I have to leave further research and discussion on that topic for some time in the distant future. There are much more immediately pressing challenges to deal with on both the Macedonian and personal front.
                          Last edited by aleksandrov; 02-03-2010, 01:10 AM.
                          All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer

                          https://www.facebook.com/igor.a.aleksandrov?ref=tn_tnmn

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                          • aleksandrov
                            Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 558

                            #14
                            Originally posted by makedonche View Post
                            I think you'll find the purpose to anonymity is protection of privacy from the shpioni as opposed protection from the members here, SOM explains it further on another post.
                            I know the argument about the apparent protection pseudonyms offer, but unless you are someone like Goce Delcev in the Ottoman Empire, or are living in a fanatically racist and politically oppressive state like Greece or Bulgaria (maybe even the Republic of Macedonia, if your job or your family's jobs depend on political party allegiance), I don't think it outweighs the benefit of people making themselves publicly accountable for their public statements. The way I see it, if you want privacy, keep your statements private too. if you are going to make public statements, then you should make your identity public too. I can't think of any reputable media outlet or discussion forum other than internet forums and talkback radio (which I don't take very seriously at all) where that is not the norm.
                            All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer

                            https://www.facebook.com/igor.a.aleksandrov?ref=tn_tnmn

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                            • makedonche
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 3242

                              #15
                              Originally posted by aleksandrov View Post
                              I know the argument about the apparent protection pseudonyms offer, but unless you are someone like Goce Delcev in the Ottoman Empire, or are living in a fanatically racist and politically oppressive state like Greece or Bulgaria (maybe even the Republic of Macedonia, if your job or your family's jobs depend on political party allegiance), I don't think it outweighs the benefit of people making themselves publicly accountable for their public statements. The way I see it, if you want privacy, keep your statements private too. if you are going to make public statements, then you should make your identity public too. I can't think of any reputable media outlet or discussion forum other than internet forums and talkback radio (which I don't take very seriously at all) where that is not the norm.
                              It's not an argument about protection pseudonyms, nor about where you live or the oppressive nature of your location or political party allegiances or even privacy for that matter for me it's about having a CHOICE, my choice whether I disclose my identity or use another name.
                              You will find that regardless of what you use here you will be held accountable for your comments as I stated previously. As for reputable media or the "norm" - this site has provided me more factual information, open discussion, accountability and choice than any other forum, media outlet or talk back radio and is setting the "norm" not following it!
                              On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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