СРЕЌЕН ИЛИНДЕН - Sreḱen Ilinden

[TRAVOLTA]

ALL THE BEST...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl24RD1NYvg

[George S.]

Illinden today!

May we wish everyone all the best for this day of illinden.All the best.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Everyone knows that the ideas and constitution of the party are solid. We all know that people who hold high positions within a party dictate on how that party should run an act. It is up to us to take action to actively change and shape the party the way we want.

Their constitution is a worthless piece of paper if its statements aren't manifested into action. Their actions are the true measure of their worth, and currently, most of their actions are worthless as it relates to the Macedonian Cause. It is going to be an uphill battle for you mate, because that organisation, despite the superficial patriotism of many of its leaders (and the perhaps genuine but nevertheless misguided patriotism of many of its followers), is severely compromised. You're going to have a tough time driving change, because this youth group seems more like a proxy for the Macedonian-based DPMNE rather than an avenue for the Diaspora to influence policy. I therefore suspect you will find the relationship to be one-sided.

[Vangelovski]

Here is part of their Statute:

This seems like pretty standard stuff included in all centre-right European party statement of values. I think their election platform has some juicier stuff in it and really that is what they can be judged against as that is a statement of what they promise to do.

[Risto the Great]

Here is part of their Statute:

VMRO-DPMNE stands for:

· Development and prosperity of the independent and sovereign Republic of Macedonia;

· Elevation of the dignity and spiritual values of the Macedonian people, the citizens of Macedonia and the Macedonian state;

· Rule of law, proper implementation of laws and legal procedures and independence in decision-making of the courts;

· Market economy and private property, based on the economic system;

· Free association of citizens in partisan or non-partisan organizations and associations and freedom of veroispovedanieto in which clergy and religions autonomous essences;

· Freedom of speech and press, opposition to any kind of political tutelage on journalism, censorship and government's intervention in news coverage;

· Respect the rights of ethnic minorities and opposition to any expressions of bigotry, chauvinism or segregation on ethnic, linguistic or religious grounds;

· Guaranteeing the rights of Macedonians living outside the borders of the Republic of Macedonia under the Constitution and international documents;

· Building friendship and good neighborliness with all neighboring countries, as the basis for a new Balkan order; and

· Inclusion of the Republic of Macedonia to the European Union and NATO.

[Niko777]

No offence but I see those pics as propaganda photos on behalf of the vmro-dpmne party, as if they are saying if you support the 16 ray sun as our national flag then vote for them, but we all know they don't have a plan to restore the flag and they probably never will. Not to forget the party continues to make behind the door deals with the Albanians like the construction of that mega mosque with 4 minarets that was recently approved in Skopje.

But if forming a VMRO youth section is the only way to gather the young people and make them more involved in politics, so be it. Congratulations and I hope you'll bring some real change.

[Gocka]

What are they?

Yes, I am also interested, please give us more information.

[Risto the Great]

The statue is fine.
If I had to imagine a group of young Liberals or something, they are more conservative than their political heroes. In this case, I'm not convinced the ideals of the "mladi" are even on the same page as that of the wannabe Putin (and cohorts) running Macedonia at the moment.

I don't mean any disrespect, but I find the ancient garb a little embarrassing to be honest. If its done with a bit of humour, so be it. But, otherwise, it reminds me of my sons when they were playing in the back yard when they were little children.

Everyone knows that the ideas and constitution of the party are solid.

What are they?

[Toska]

battle of chaeronea was on the 2nd of august also

[Macedonian_Nationalist]

Not having a go but that Alexander statue is horrible. Looks like a midget. Also, why dress up as Phalanx on ilinden ? Should be komitska nosija

[George S.]

Lavce congrats on your appointmment and all the best.I hope it all ties in with your uni studies.
The vmro DPMNE from macedonia is NOT the real deal.They are so far detached from the old vmro that its a joke.The current vmro DPMNE are sellout merchants and are capitulators and they love to use the ventilator.Why they think they are the ruling party and its the best for macedonia can offer.They'll do anything to stay in power probably sell their mother and their soul to stay in power.Lafce sorry to sound so negative but you know what i mean All the best for the future.

[lavce pelagonski]

Ilinden 2014 Melburne, Australia

I would like to make a statement before I post. I have been wanting to share this news with you all for some time now but was reluctant because I know that the general consensus on this forum about VMRO DPMNE is that the party is not performing its function properly. You all should know me very well by know and how I feel on Macedonian issues including politics. I have been afforded a great opportunity to form the first mladi sili na VMRO in Australia. I see this as a great opportunity to bring young Macedonians from Australia closer to their Macedonian roots and to be more politically involved. Everyone knows that the ideas and constitution of the party are solid. We all know that people who hold high positions within a party dictate on how that party should run an act. It is up to us to take action to actively change and shape the party the way we want. I am currently the president of UMS VMRO and I need the help of our young Macedonians on this forum whom I can trust. Zadgranicniot komitet and mladi sili na VMRO DPMNE Melburne does not use the ventilator! Or I would not associate myself with this initiative.

Blagodaram od srce.

На 2 Август 2014г за нашиот голем верски и Македонски празник Илинден ЗК на ВМРО ДПМНЕ и УМС на ВМРО ДПМНЕ Австралија го забележија со положување венец на споменикот на великанот Александар Македонски во Манастирот Св. Прохор Пчински во Донибрук. Прославата се започна со утринска панахида за загинатитие Македонски борци во Црквата Св. Пророк Илија во Футскрај и потоа положување на венец на shrine of remembrance во градот.
Говорот на големиот војвода Никола Карев ја прикажува храброста на Македонскиот народ на времето на Илинденското востание и ние како претци требаме да ги сватиме идеите на големиот војвода и да ја продолжиме битката за обединета и суверена Македонија.
"....Браќа, чашата на трпението се прелеа, пламнаа нашите срца и ние, синовите на страдалниот наш народ за да ги исполниме светите завети на нашите дедовци и прадедовци, се органзииравме, дадовме заклетва за верност до смрт и востанавме да и дадеме мир на нашата маченичка мајка Македонија, чија земја е натопена со солзите, потта и крвта на нејзините синови и ќерки и да издвојуваме слобода, леб и човечки правдини..."
Овој говор на Никола Карев требаме да го сватиме како обединување на Македонскиот народ кон една иднина и една мисла. Така и ние требаме да се обединиме во 21 век каде што сме распрснати на секаде низ овој бели свет. Без слога кон Македонецот не можиме да почниме да се бориме за обединета Македонија. Требаме мир и вера во нашата душа и памет и добро размислување во нашата глава.
Да ние честит празникот Илинден, вечна му слава на сите паднати борци што се бореле за нашата мајка Македонија. Главата секогаш да ја држиме горе! Господ да ја чува и брани Македонија од крвожедни непријатели! Македонија на Македонците! Амин.
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[Louis]

That could have been interesting, since a Greek (Aristotle Tziabiris) was participating. It's a pitty the translator was covering the debate (that was held in English). Who was the guy in the studio?

[lavce pelagonski]

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[George S.]

well the greeks won't like to remind them of the good arse whippin we gave them in chaeronia.