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  • TrueMacedonian
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 3820

    The creation of New Sparta






    What hasn't King Otto created culturally for the imposter hellenes???
    Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
  • Soldier of Macedon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13675

    #2
    A GERMANIC person rescusitated ancient placenames in Greece, I guess all of the one's ending in ITSA and OVA didn't make the cut in the new Greece.
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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    • TrueMacedonian
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 3820

      #3
      Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
      A GERMANIC person rescusitated ancient placenames in Greece, I guess all of the one's ending in ITSA and OVA didn't make the cut in the new Greece.

      I know we don't expect any less of the imposter Hellenes and their German masters, as well as the other western philhellenic masters they serve, to actually show us that they are somehow descended from the ancient race of Hellenes. I just find it amusing how Demos and Terra have gone MIA on most of these threads.
      Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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      • Risto the Great
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 15659

        #4
        Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
        I just find it amusing how Demos and Terra have gone MIA on most of these threads.
        Good point.
        Why no comment from our Southern friends?
        Nothing?
        Not even a simple no backed by opposing observations?
        Risto the Great
        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

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        • Spartan
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 1037

          #5
          Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
          A GERMANIC person rescusitated ancient placenames in Greece, I guess all of the one's ending in ITSA and OVA didn't make the cut in the new Greece.
          Actually SoM, there are a few towns with the "itsa" suffix in Lakonia.
          Goritsa comes to mind
          I cant think of any "ovas" off the top of my head though

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          • Spartan
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 1037

            #6
            Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
            Good point.
            Why no comment from our Southern friends?
            Nothing?
            Not even a simple no backed by opposing observations?
            There is nothing to contest in the article Risto.
            Actually, I think this thread has been posted in the wrong sub-forum.
            I dont see what lies or Propoganda has been exposed.
            We all know that modern day Sparta was founded by Otto.
            There is a plaque commemorating it on our city hall.
            The city of Ancient Sparta has died, as the ancient Spartans left little behind.
            Mistras was the medievil Sparti, until Otto refounded Sparti on the exact same location as ancient Sparti.
            This is all common knowledge...
            Last edited by Spartan; 02-05-2009, 09:33 AM.

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            • TrueMacedonian
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 3820

              #7
              Originally posted by Spartan View Post
              There is nothing to contest in the article Risto.
              Actually, I think this thread has been posted in the wrong sub-forum.
              I dont see what lies or Propoganda has been exposed.
              We all know that modern day Sparta was founded by Otto.
              There is a plaque commemorating it on our city hall.
              The city of Ancient Sparta has died, as the ancient Spartans left little behind.
              Mistras was the medievil Sparti, until Otto refounded Sparti on the exact same location as ancient Sparti.
              This is all common knowledge...

              The resusitation of ancient names by Bavarian philhellenes, not modern "greeks", is really what the post is about. Revival of a past by foreigners who sought to weave a dream world, or what they thought a perfect civilized world, should be.
              Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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              • Sarafot
                Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 616

                #8
                Steel the legend of Sparta and Spartans have survived until today,and i admire it,respect it,and love it!

                I hope that legend will never day,and i wish that your country man learn something from it!
                Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
                - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

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                • Spartan
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1037

                  #9
                  MYSTRAS UNDER THE BYZANTINES
                  After 1262, the entire district, known as the Morea, was governed by a Byzantine general based at Mystras. Fighting with the Franks continued for many years, resulting in the inhabitants of the city of Sparta moving behind the protective city walls of Byzantine Mystras. The increase in population was the primary reason for the development of the site, from defended village to full blown town and centre of culture. Instead of being solely a military garrison, monasteries, churches and a library were built, and the See of the Bishop of Lacedaemonia was established here. In addition, the governorship of Byzantine Mystras became a permanent and hereditary position. Gradually, the site was tied to Constantinople, by bonds of blood and religious hierarchy.

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                  • TrueMacedonian
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3820

                    #10
                    How about how Slavic Sparta was http://books.google.com/books?id=emN...as_pt=ALLTYPES
                    Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                    • Spartan
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1037

                      #11
                      ^^
                      Are you on a crusade against me or something?! lol
                      I even told you Id change my name to Spartovski...LOL


                      This is my take on this issue.
                      It would be ludicrous to say that slavs did not migrate into the Peloponnese. The evidence is there from the place-names they left behind, and is well recorded. However, to say that the Greeks of the region simply disappeared in the face of these migrations is equally ludicrous. How could all these new slav settlements be hellenised if there were no Greeks around to hellenise them?
                      We are talking about 600-900 AD here.
                      Its simply a case of assimilation over time, it happens everywhere.
                      Today, other than some place-names, there is no slavic element in the Peloponnese....
                      Last edited by Spartan; 04-30-2009, 07:55 PM.

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                      • Delodephius
                        Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 736

                        #12
                        Relax Spartan. Who knows what origin the Slavic speakers in the Peloponese were. They could be remnants of ancient slaves, shepherds, invaders, colonists of Rome, Byzantium or the Ottomans. Who knows. Their former presence is however marked in the toponyms.
                        अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्।
                        उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥
                        This is mine or (somebody) else’s (is the way) narrow minded people count.
                        But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family.

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                        • Spartan
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1037

                          #13
                          ^^
                          Im only kidding around with TM my friend.

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                          • Pelister
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2742

                            #14
                            The point that sticks out for me is this. Everything that is historically diverse, and natural about that landscape has been forfeited, has been whitewashed, for a fantasy. And they call us FAKE - the Macedonians with their own authentic traditions, culture and life, which we remain true to.

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