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  • Bill77
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 4545

    #16
    Originally posted by peter pap View Post
    cruelty to animals should not be a political statement.do not use animals for your input into political issues.i was in Macedonia for 2 months and i observed the way Macedonians treat animals,i am Macedonian and i treat all animals with respect,i was discussed the way some Macedonians tied their dogs on a 2 meter leash all day every day just so the dog can guard their house,with no shelter from the sun.be careful how you present your argument,because it can turn around and bite you.
    Thanks for your advise, and let me guess.........it's Peter Papas.....right?

    I don't doubt you have stepped on independent Macedonian soil,
    But I do doubt,
    A) you spent 2 months, (Mabe 2 hours for shopping and possibly dining as we all are aware of the poverty and Corruption in Ellada).
    B) you are a animal lover (apart from goats which is a different type of love you would show.......and I suppose you love lamb giro, but then again who dosen't love lamb on a spit).
    C) you observed the way Macedonians treated animals.

    By the way Peter.........what will you do with yourself now that you can't spin shit due to your AMCA being hacked?

    Oh I see, you will be coming in here with your shit spinning just like you have on this occasion. I also am not surprised at your tactic in covering up this being a Greek issue and trying to replace it with Macedonians being culprits. A Greek trait of late.

    Peter, be a good little Grik boy and support Anastasia Bombolaki with what seems to be a serious, quite common issue in Greece, otherwise Anastasia wouldn't be doing what she's doing. And from what I hear, she does a great job.
    http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      #17
      I heard of Bulgarian cruelty to animals is the most barbaric of all.The poor things are subjected to so much pain & punishment.They are supposed to be civilized & part of the eu what a joke.
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • julie
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 3869

        #18
        Peter Pap.......agree with everything Bill has said, you wont be able to get too far here with your spiels. Must really suck for you having your hate site AMAC puff away into the oblivion it deserves to be in

        And your human rights abuses are truly disgusting, I think its wonderful the world waking up to the abuses of your hellarse country upon people and animals. Show hellarsians for the scum they are.
        You see, the truth ALWAYS prevails
        "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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        • peter pap
          Banned
          • Oct 2013
          • 13

          #19
          how wrong you are

          you need to educate your self in human behavior.i bleed macedonia,i am a vegetarian,i rescue animals from slaughter houses,you are quick to state what is in your tiny brain,without giving consideration to the statement i made.the world is watching,and all you are showing them how narrow minded you are.i left greece because i hate breathing the same air as them.you are in your comfort zone,and it is stupid to think that every name that starts with pap is your enemy,you should not speak on behalf of macedonia,you are our weakness in moving forward and showing the world we macedonians are a very intelligent race.my statement was purely about cruelty to animals,not political, you jerk.

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          • Soldier of Macedon
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 13675

            #20
            Peter, do you speak Macedonian? Which region of Macedonia does your family come from?
            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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            • peter pap
              Banned
              • Oct 2013
              • 13

              #21
              do you think soldier of macedon that the region you come from is more macedonian then the region that i come from,your narrow minded brain is not helping our plight for macedonia,your pee Brain is only dividing us,and that is what the greeks love to hear.

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              • julie
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 3869

                #22
                you got asked a very simple question. And should have the decency to answer it without insulting anyone. Your name calling denotes something has touched a nerve, and your insulting manner and speaking so divisively . It does not take long to sniff out a rat here, and you are obviously one . Because the people on this forum within the diaspora are from all parts of Macedonia, and we accept everyone that does not automatically become defensive on a question of where they are from. Nor do people within their first 2 posts state how the Macedonian race is the most intelligent one in the world and implying the diaspora are hurting the Macedonian cause. On the contrary, if it was not for the loud noises of disgust from the diaspora with the so called intelligent government there, it would have ceased to exist already

                You wont last too long here that is for sure
                "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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                • peter pap
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 13

                  #23
                  your friend billy made a statement that i like goats for pleasure, and you agreed with him julie,that was an insult julie not my response.

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                  • Soldier of Macedon
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13675

                    #24
                    Originally posted by peter pap View Post
                    do you think soldier of macedon that the region you come from is more macedonian then the region that i come from,your narrow minded brain is not helping our plight for macedonia,your pee Brain is only dividing us,and that is what the greeks love to hear.
                    Take it easy buddy, I just asked you a couple of simple questions. I will ignore your insult this time because I am in no mood for an argument. But I expect you to answer my questions truthfully with your next response otherwise you will be shown the door.
                    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                    • peter pap
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 13

                      #25
                      yes i do speak macedonian,maybe not as fluent as i like to but i try my best,i am from koziani .if you decide to bar me from this forum i will understand,but read billys comment,and then you will understand my response,if you do not understand then i do not belong here.

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                      • julie
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 3869

                        #26
                        Originally posted by peter pap View Post
                        you need to educate your self in human behavior.i bleed macedonia,i am a vegetarian,i rescue animals from slaughter houses,you are quick to state what is in your tiny brain,without giving consideration to the statement i made.the world is watching,and all you are showing them how narrow minded you are.i left greece because i hate breathing the same air as them.you are in your comfort zone,and it is stupid to think that every name that starts with pap is your enemy,you should not speak on behalf of macedonia,you are our weakness in moving forward and showing the world we macedonians are a very intelligent race.my statement was purely about cruelty to animals,not political, you jerk.

                        This is the statement that you made, me , being part of the diaspora, as the weakness in Macedonia moving forward

                        Tell me, how the diaspora are impacting on Macedonia moving forward.
                        And your interpretation of moving forward - is it anything to do with the Interim Accord ? That you are stating the blocks and displeasure from the diaspora is stopping the implementation of a treasonous accord to to the Macedonian name and nation ?

                        I am really interested to hear your response.
                        As am sure others are, on how the diaspora are stopping Macedonia move forward.

                        As for which divided part of Macedonia my background is from, one part lies in hellarse, my proud bloodline, and the other in that small piece that is not fighting nearly hard enough to tell Greece to shove the interim accord up its arse along with the OFA to the EU !
                        "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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                        • Gocka
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 2306

                          #27
                          Originally posted by peter pap View Post
                          yes i do speak macedonian,maybe not as fluent as i like to but i try my best,i am from koziani .if you decide to bar me from this forum i will understand,but read billys comment,and then you will understand my response,if you do not understand then i do not belong here.
                          Come on guys lets cool it down a bit, its easy to ban people if we want, so lets here him out first before we attack. We dont want to turn into our enemy right?

                          I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt even though my better judgment tells me not to. Some of what he said is not false, although Macedonia is not nearly as bad as greece they are still pretty bad when it comes to animal cruelty.

                          So tell us a little more about yourself? If you want people to be a little more welcoming and trusting then put your good foot forward. Even if you are greek it doesn't matter, just be honest, that's most important.

                          By the way isn't it Kozani, not Koziani?

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                          • Soldier of Macedon
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 13675

                            #28
                            It's actually Kozhani. There aren't many Macedonians left there these days.

                            Peter, do you know what the name of the town means in Macedonian?
                            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                            • EgejskaMakedonia
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 1665

                              #29
                              To be fair, a lot of Balkan countries have quite a poor track record when it comes to the treatment of animals. However, I don't doubt that Greece surpasses most of them when it comes to animal abuse.

                              When I visited relatives in Egej as a kid, they had a dog that was tied up more or less 24/7, bar hunting trips. I really felt sorry for it, and you could tell that after years of such treatment it had built up a fair bit of anger.

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                              • George S.
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10116

                                #30
                                There is a thread here & its been reported in the press Greece has one of the most appalling track records for animal cuelty.They are guilty of so much atrocities committed
                                on innocent animals which pales anything else into insignificance.If you say as you say you are peter you would know about it .Or what AMAC has loosened the leash whilst the malaca website is down eh.
                                or are you Macedonian ? then you need to let us know.& yes you sound like you are are greek ?but you need to let us know.
                                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                                GOTSE DELCEV

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