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  • George S.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
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    The Olympian false Gods

    The Olympian false Gods



    By Samson Stanislavsky, Phd



    Greeks of today and their paid “Hellenistic” supporters and French creators of “Hellenism” insist that Macedonians and Greeks are one and the same race and ethnos, because they worshiped the same Gods and spoke the same language. This view is nowhere near the truth.



    First of all, all the Olympic Gods were Egyptian deities imported to Athens by merchants. The ancients only changed their names from Egyptian to Athenian.



    Macedonians did not worship any of the Olympic gods; actually they did not worship any gods.

    We have to look at none other than Aristotle himself, the greatest philosopher ever to live on this planet. Aristotle expressed doubts on the value to worship those immoral notions living on the mountain Olympus and ridiculed them. For his disrespect he was sentenced to death by the Athenian elders for insulting their false religion.



    Aristotle, the Macedonian philosopher and teacher of Alexander the Great, escaped his execution by fleeing Athens and returning to his native Macedonian city Staggira.



    In this instance he made his famous statement about the Athenians and their criminal behaviour.

    “I don’t want to give opportunity to the Athenians to commit a third crime against philosophy” he uttered.

    First they poisoned Socrates the Athenian philosopher for telling them the truth. Socrates was famous for saying: “Man know thyself”.

    The second crime against philosophy by the Athenians was the condemnation of Protagoras, the Macedonian philosopher from Abdera for expressing doubts about the morality of the Olympian gods. He was condemned to death but fled in his boat and died in the sea during a storm.

    Aristotle also fled but died of natural causes at age 62.



    Now here is what Protagoras had to say about the Olympian gods, according to the book: “The Greek Philosophers, from Thales to Aristotle”, by W.K.C. Guthrie;



    Doubts have been cast upon the Olympian deities of the Greek polis, however, long before the time of Alexander the Great. In the world of fifth-century Greece, philosophers and playwrights already questioned the virtues and implicitly, the existence of gods and goddesses who were portrayed, with anthropomorphic vividness, as lustful, jealous, malevolent immortals. The cities demanded to know how one could worship a god like Zeus who according to Greek myths, dethroned his titanic father Kronos, pursued and ravished, often while in bestial disguise, many a beautiful woman, and resorted to countless stratagems in order to evade his suspicious wife Hera. Such behaviour on the part of the Olympians raised serious theological doubts in the minds of the more reflective people.



    Amongst the philosophers and professional thinkers of the fifth century BC, a number of free thinkers offered rationalistic interpretations of religion and the gods to explain the existence and nature of the tarnished Olympians. Some philosophers, like Protagoras of Abdera embraced agnosticism. In his work On Gods, Peri Theon, Protagoras declares that he is unable to say whether the gods actually exist, and if they do, of what sort they might be. For this statement the Athenians brought him to trial and condemned him to death. While Protagoras escaped the Athenians, he could not evade the power of mighty Poseidon, and died in a ship wreck.
    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
    GOTSE DELCEV
  • Agamoi Thytai
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    • Nov 2010
    • 198

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    Originally posted by George S. View Post
    Macedonians did not worship any of the Olympic gods; actually they did not worship any gods.
    Has this guy ever heard of the cult of Zeus Hypsistos in Macedonia?
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    Originally posted by George S. View Post
    Aristotle, the Macedonian philosopher and teacher of Alexander the Great, escaped his execution by fleeing Athens and returning to his native Macedonian city Staggira.
    Aristotle was not Macedonian.His native town Stageira was a colony of Chalcis:
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    Originally posted by George S. View Post
    The second crime against philosophy by the Athenians was the condemnation of Protagoras, the Macedonian philosopher from Abdera for expressing doubts about the morality of the Olympian gods.
    Holly shitt!!Protagoras was also Macedonian???Protagoras from Abdera,an Ionian colony in Thrace???
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    Then why you don't claim his compatriot Democritus as Macedonian too?
    "What high honour do the Macedonians deserve, who throughout nearly their whole lives are ceaselessly engaged in a struggle with the barbarians for the safety of the Greeks?"
    Polybius, Histories, 9.35

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      #3
      agamoi this guy's got a phd he knows what he's talkinig about.
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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