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Turkish political representatives from Western Thrace meet with members of the 'Krste Misirkov' association near Voden to discuss minority issues in Greece:
I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.Comment
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"An unexpected insight in the history of Crete was provided by the IBD analysis. The results showed that the Cretans share high IBD with Western (CEU), Central (German, Polish), Northern (CEU, Scandinavian), and Eastern (Ukranian, Russian) European populations. Indeed, in previous studies, there has been an excess of IBD sharing reported between Eastern Europe and the Greeks, while an admixture event has been inferred using Poland as a representative population of the eastern component in the Greek population (Hellenthal et al., 2014; Ralph & Coop, 2013). Especially the results of Hellenthal et al. (2014) used GLOBETROTTER to infer (under a pulse‐admixture model that has the same assumptions as ALDER) that Greek DNA could be described as the mixture of 37% DNA from a Polish‐like source and 63% from a Cypriot‐like source occurring sometime between 7181138 C.E.; our analyses here support these findings."
"The IBD sharing between Cyprus and Northern/Eastern Europeans could be explained if, as a result of the expansion in Asia Minor of Turkish states in 12th13th centuries C.E., Byzantine populations, which included Scythians and Slavs, migrated to Cyprus."
"If the tribes that moved to the depopulated Crete included Hellenized Goths (Gothogreeks; Ostrogorsky, 1969; Turtledove, 1982) and Hellenized Slavs (Charanis, 1961) from Asia Minor, the IBD data could be explained."
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"These three millions of Armenians, Ottoman subjects, are distributed as follows: 400,000 at Constantinople and in the Balkan peninsula, 600,000 in Asia Minor and in the plain of Cilicia, 670,000 in Armenia Minor (...), and 1,300,000 in Turkish Major Armenia..."
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The Armenian historian, Sebeos (ch. 6), relates that at a much earlier date the Roman emperor, Maurice, had a scheme for the wholesale deportation to Thrace of the Armenian population living in his dominions. He at the same time proposed to Chosrow that he should deport the Armenians under his rule.
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The "Byzantine" army at Lebounion included a tagma of 5,000 'mountain people' whom Anna Comnene calls Areimanioi. Some have proposed that those were Vlachs, who call themselves Armani.
Areimanis appears in classical texts, such as Strabo, with the meaning of "full of warlike frenzy" (possessed by the god Ares), as correctly translated in the english edition of the Alexiad. Anna was very fond of such classical references, by which she wanted to show her sophistication. This, however, does not exclude the possibility of those warriors being Vlachs, as they are said to have come from the mountains.
It is known that on the eve Lebounion, the emperor recruited heavily from among the Bulgarians and Vlachs in southern Thrace (an area under the command of N. Melissenos).
-- Page 140, A. Magdearu, "Byzantine Military Organization on the Danube, 10th-12th Centuries"Comment
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- For the late 1400s, it is said that Zakynthos and Kephallonia were largely uninhabited at the time of the Venetian take-over in the late 1400s.
- 15th century Peloponnese: According to the first Ottoman fiscal documents the peninsula may have had more Albanian than "Greek" inhabitants.
Pages 192-193: "Coinage and Money in Medieval Greece 1200-1430 (2 vols.)", by Julian BakerLast edited by Carlin; 04-16-2022, 12:16 PM.Comment
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- "The documents of the Latin Archdiocese of Kephallonia record the presence of the Vlachs in the Ionian Islands in 1274."
- "Under the reign of Sultan Mahomed II (1451-1480), the Vlachs represented about 40% of the population of the Peloponnese."
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Constantine Buhayer (University of Westminster, London) states that "many of the Greeks of Crimea were Ellinovlachi".
Vyron Karidis, The Mariupol Greeks: Tsarist Treatment of an ethnic minority ca. 1778-1859 - Pages 66 & 67:Originally posted by Onur View Post
- "By the late 1770s the Russians, probably in an attempt to weaken the theoretically independent Crimean Khanate, encouraged a great part of its non-Muslim population (Christian Armenians, Georgians, Vlachs and Crimean Greeks) to emigrate to the steppes of Azov."
- "The exodus started in July 1778. To Alexander Suvorov's report, who played a leading part in the Christian emigration, 'Greeks, Georgians and Vlachs,' left from 68 various parts of the Crimean peninsula..."
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Testimony of Robert Curzon (1810-1873), of 1849, for his visits, in 1834, to Epirus, Macedonia and Thessaly where he met "Albanians who spoke the Vlach language".Comment
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In 1553, in Salona (now Amfissa), Agrafa and Thessaly lived Vlachs who "were both good Christians and good people."Comment
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- According to John Sibthorp (1758 – 1796; in Walpole's Memoirs, p. 141.), "a wandering tribe of Nomads" on the other side of Greece drive their flocks from the mountains of Thessaly into the plains of Attica and Bæotia to pass the winter.
- Testimony from 1423: Euboea or Evia was also inhabited by Vlachs (Vlachi). (Μνημεία Ελληνικής Ιστορίας - Documents Inedits Relatif a l'Histoire de la Grece au Moyen Age Publias sous les Auspices de la Chambre des Deputes de Grece par C.N. Sathas, Premiere Serie, Documents Tires des Archives de Venice (1400-1500) Tome III, Paris MDCCCLXXXII [1882]).
[Valachos/Vlachi lived in Zitouni (Lamia) and Negroponte (Evia).]
- 1470: the Duke of Messina in NE Sicily was a Vlach (Ulacho).
- 1481: Koroni, in Morea, was inhabited by Vlachi.Last edited by Carlin; 06-17-2022, 08:19 AM.Comment
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Leake mentions Vlach villages in Mystras (Peloponnese).Comment
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BREAKING: Recently a paper came out the on genetics of the Classical period of the Greek army. Here are some of the samples (closets) that has been mentioned as mercenaries
1. Sarmatians
2. Balto-Slavs
3. BA Caucasus-like
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Chart showing the Y-DNA haplogroups among the Hellenic mercenaries from the recent paper:Originally posted by Carlin View Post
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