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  • TrueMacedonian
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    Very soon a man emerged from a pile of branches and came near us. He looked nervous and confused and hesitated in his speech. "Please," I said, "Tell us, are you Christian bandits of Turks?"
    "Oh," he said "We are a mixture of faiths and nationalities. Among us are Bulgarians and Albanians, Serbs and Macedonians. We even have a Jew with us. But we are no bandits. You shall know very soon why you were captured."
    The unpublished memoirs of Madame Tsilka who was kidnapped along with the infamous Miss Ellen Stone. Date is 1901. The man Tsilka wrote about was none other than Jane Sandanski.

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  • TrueMacedonian
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    From an existing topic - http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ead.php?t=2687

    Victor Serge wrote memoirs of his life and activities. Between 1912-1919 he wrote
    the Macedonians, proud, destitute, and silent, were just Macedonians.

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  • makedonin
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    Originally posted by Bratot View Post
    Source: “The Eye Expanded”, chapter 16 “Macedonian Redux” by Eugene N. Borza, page 249-254, 1999
    Acctually that article has to be posted as well.

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  • Bratot
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    A prophecy of Alexander the Great

    Venice

    A foreword for the translation

    During the excavations in Babylon, inside a golden box, it was found an old manuscript from long past times. This manuscript was translated in all languages, since this is a prophecy of Alexander the Great, who predicted without all the great things that were done from that time until now, and also tells what else will be done.

    Since this manuscript is a prophecy of Alexander the Great and speaks most highly about his beloved country Macedonia, I a servant of Jesus, being from the same country as this great man, decided, with the help of the Holly Spirit, to make a translation on the languages that are spoken in my homeland, and make it as understandable as possible. I pray to God so this book will bring mercy to all that have our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen

    I wrote this in 1845

    Yeromonah Atanas Macedonian





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  • Bratot
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    "STOYAN PETROFF Macedone [sic] died Sep. 20, 1906 At Steelton Pa"


    Source: “The Eye Expanded”, chapter 16 “Macedonian Redux” by Eugene N. Borza, page 249-254, 1999
    Last edited by Bratot; 09-10-2010, 02:52 AM.

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  • Risto the Great
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    Originally posted by El Bre View Post
    It's readily apparent how certain people developed a Greek or Bulgarian conciousness, but, how does one who is described as "indifferent to nationality" develop a Macedonian conciousness?

    The answer is...he doesn't because it was already present.
    Absolutely ... and a logical extension of that is that the "development" of a Bulgarian or Greek consciousness is artificial.

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  • El Bre
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    Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
    here is some more.... noted by the Greek army in 1925.......


    Source: Minorities in Greece by Richard Clogg, 2002, page 129.

    To be noted:
    The passage highlighted in green is very telling.

    It's readily apparent how certain people developed a Greek or Bulgarian conciousness, but, how does one who is described as "indifferent to nationality" develop a Macedonian conciousness?

    The answer is...he doesn't because it was already present.

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  • TrueMacedonian
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    Daskale that's a gem. Looks like we might be tripiling the content of this sooner than what I expected.







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  • Daskalot
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    here is some more.... noted by the Greek army in 1925.......


    Source: Minorities in Greece by Richard Clogg, 2002, page 129.

    To be noted:
    Ellinophrones=GRKOMANS (Macedonians with Greek national consciousness)

    Voulgarophrones=BUGAROMANS (Macedonians with Bulgarian national consciousness)

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  • TrueMacedonian
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  • Bratot
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    Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
    Bratot you're on a roll my friend. Let's triple the content of this topic before the week is over. Are you game?
    Why not... why not , how about this:

    "Are you a Serb? Are you Bulgarian? Grecian or Albanian? On this series of questions, the Macedonian people, today as yesterday, were giving the same answer - I am Macedonian ".


    "Je suis Macédonien"


    Emmanuel Duvillard (born 1887) est le presidente du Comite de Geneve pour la Defense des victimes de la terreur blanche dans les Balkans.

    Last edited by Bratot; 09-09-2010, 04:20 AM.

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  • Makedonetz
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    Thessa do you refute these above qoutes and evidence.....don't get up too quick and make your head hit the ceiling fan.

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  • TrueMacedonian
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    Notice the dates above. 1921-23 was when this data was first published. It's hard to read but still easy enough to decipher;

    In Greece the Macedonians, Turks, Bulgarians, Armenians, Kutso-Vlachs, and Jews are deprived of the most elementary rights and liberties.

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  • TrueMacedonian
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    Originally posted by Bratot View Post
    The National Geographic Magazine in 1917:

    "Neither Bulgar nor Serb" said one such old woman, defiantly, when we left the Monastir road at Dobraveni, " I am Macedonian only and I am sick of war "






    http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nation..._Monastir_Road

    Bratot you're on a roll my friend. Let's triple the content of this topic before the week is over. Are you game?

    Frank Fox wrote a ton of books in the early 20th century. This is one;





    and this is the interesting other;




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  • TrueMacedonian
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    Originally posted by Pelister View Post
    They call themselves Macedonians

    This theme of “they call themselves Macedonians” continues throughout the early part of the 20th century.

    Consider, for example, the experience of Henry Baerlein, writing for the Fortnightly Review, in May 1928:



    And goes on to say that;



    p.627

    Baerlein, Henry., “What is happening in Macedonia” in Fortnightly Review, 123, (May, 1928), pp.624-632,

    The experience had been corroborated by British officials attached to the foreign office, in Macedonia throughout the early part of the 20th century.
    Good topic Pelister. And good sources. I will add an already existing topic here - http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...cedonians+1921 - Where Macedonians stated to a traveller in 1921 "We are Macedonians" everywhere he went.

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