What's in a name?

[johnMKD]

Risto, as I had written later on, I read that in wikipedia. You can check it. I didn't say that it was right. I asked from you guys to tell me what do you believe about that.

[Risto the Great]

I can post many things from Wikipedia. The onus is really on you to prove the statement by Wikipedia. Here is how I would tackle it if I was a Greek:

1. Prove that being Greek in the 21st century is the same as Achaian
2. Prove the homogeneity of the Hellenic city states.
3. Prove that the ethnicity of ancient Macedonians was the same as any single one of the ancient Hellenic city states.
4. Consider the impact of any of your realisations given that you are talking about perceptions of 2000 year old historical arguments.

When experts in ancient history find it difficult to prove the ethnicity of Ancient Macedonians, I find it laughable that modern Greeks feel so empowered that they somehow know better.

Give it a go and get back to us.

[Jankovska]

John MK you haven't answered any of my questions but I will ask you again? Explain this to me, this is what you said

My question to you concerns the name itself. Why insisting on a name which is Greek by default? Does this imply that you are Greeks too?

How is Macedonia Greek by default? You will have to explan this coz it is a huge statement yuo made

[Daskalot]

The origin of the name of Macedonia is just a mere theory. Do you consider Romania as per default Italian?

[johnMKD]

Ok guys. I didn't know that it was a theory. I just read it in wikipedia as I said.

to Risto: if you read my posts you'll see that I've stated at least two times that nobody can claim to be direct descendant from Ancient Greeks/Macedonians or whatever. That would be hilarious. And for sure I consider my self being far from Achaian.

to Jankovska: sorry I didn't reply to you directly, but I did it by replying to others. I only said the name is Greek by default because I read it in wikipedia and then asked for everybody's views on that.

[sydney]

jonche, you're here to learn more about macedonian matters? i'm not so sure you will last. soon your blood will boil with frustration over how macedonian we are and how your version of macedonian is so cobbled together.

you've come here with "MKD" tagged to your name and the national symbol of the macedonians as your avatar. for a person that feels 100% greek, and supposedly extending the hand of friendship, do you really expect songs by the campfire?

[johnMKD]

jonche, you're here to learn more about macedonian matters? i'm not so sure you will last. soon your blood will boil with frustration over how macedonian we are and how your version of macedonian is so cobbled together.

you've come here with "MKD" tagged to your name and the national symbol of the macedonians as your avatar. for a person that feels 100% greek, and supposedly extending the hand of friendship, do you really expect songs by the campfire?

Yes sydney, I do expect that. I put both ΜKD and the avatar as a gesture of goodwill and extending the hand of friendship as you very well stated.
And as far as the fact that "i will not last" is concerned, I can reassure you that I have a great patience when it comes to identifying the truth...even if this has to happen the hard way.

[sydney]

sho vareshe tamu vo italija? jajca?

[DIMO]

johnmkd confused scientist

john you keep mentioning your a scientest, it doesnt matter if your scientist or labourer, either your macedonian or greek you cant be 50percet, 20percent, 30percent. The macedonian land was occupied by the greeks in 1913. How can the occupier of the macedonian land became greek macedonian? Think about that.

[johnMKD]

john you keep mentioning your a scientest, it doesnt matter if your scientist or labourer, either your macedonian or greek you cant be 50percet, 20percent, 30percent. The macedonian land was occupied by the greeks in 1913. How can the occupier of the macedonian land became greek macedonian? Think about that.

Firstly, I can sure be 50-30-20, because this depends on my grandparents and not on me. Secondly, you only mention Greece has occupied the land. If I am not mistaken there were also some Bulgarians and Serbs involved in the division. The occupier cannot be Macedonian; that's for sure. But, the people that were already living there for centuries can be. Do you disagree?

[DIMO]

The people that were living in macedonia for centuries were macedonian not greek.

[johnMKD]

Since you agree Dimo, these people are still there and they deserve the "name" as much as any other Macedonian.

Guys, could you please suggest me posts and material to read? thanks

[Bill77]

Since you agree Dimo, these people are still there and they deserve the "name" as much as any other Macedonian.

Guys, could you please suggest me posts and material to read? thanks

ok you silly Italian.

[DIMO]

only the macedonians are macedonian not the greeks.

[johnMKD]

ok you silly Italian.

I have never offended you Bill77