Fascist Bulgaria's occupation of Macedonia during World War II

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  • Momce Makedonce
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    Originally posted by GeorgiDimitrov View Post
    Speaking of Pirin, feel free to visit Kustendil, Goce Delchev or Blagoevgrad and ask the citizens how do they feel, are they feeling Macedonian or Bulgarian. Youll get a clear answer. Claiming human rights issues in pirin area is a pure nonce. “It took pirin that it doesn’t belong” is a bit rough. Country boundaries are carved over the years, whether we like it or not, this is the reality. You would better turnaround from Pirin and concentrate on Kumanovo and Tetovo, cause east borders won’t change, but it is not clear about west.
    Here is the proof that Macedonians exist in Pirin. Listen to the songs they dance to and what they say they are...

    Makedoncite vo Pirinska Makedonija 5 1 - YouTube

    Makedoncite vo Pirinska Makedonija -1-0.flv - YouTube

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  • GeorgiDimitrov
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    Originally posted by lavce pelagonski View Post
    The Bulgarian is funny. My grandmother had to fend for herself after my grandfather was forced to serve the Bulgarian army in sofija. Why don't you think before you post your propaganda.
    I was forced as well to serve for a year and a half in the Bulgarian army, my family didn’t like it either.

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  • GeorgiDimitrov
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    Originally posted by George S. View Post
    sO GD in your opinion Bulgaria is not the Problem.I thought it was the problem .Look at its stance on pirin etc & bulgarian propaganda.I would say bulgaria still harbors irrendist behaviour.It took pirin that it doesn't belong. to bulgaria.It now tries to hide its tracks by being friendly??Yes we do have a problem in pirin people aren't free to enjoy basic human rights.AS long as you desire more of macedonia we have a problem GD.
    Speaking of Pirin, feel free to visit Kustendil, Goce Delchev or Blagoevgrad and ask the citizens how do they feel, are they feeling Macedonian or Bulgarian. Youll get a clear answer. Claiming human rights issues in pirin area is a pure nonce. “It took pirin that it doesn’t belong” is a bit rough. Country boundaries are carved over the years, whether we like it or not, this is the reality. You would better turnaround from Pirin and concentrate on Kumanovo and Tetovo, cause east borders won’t change, but it is not clear about west.

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  • Soldier of Macedon
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    Originally posted by GeorgiDimitrov View Post
    This is the history written by the Serbain post WW2 propaganda.
    I am going to afford you an opportunity to elaborate on what exactly in that article is Serbian WW2 propaganda - and to back it up. You have one chance. Make the most of it.
    Now what I do not understand is where this hatred is coming from and why?
    Bulgaria (and by extension most Bulgars) doesn't recognise the existence of the Macedonian ethnic group. If you can't understand that, you're either completely stupid or have been living in a cave all of your life.
    Bulgaria have had many enemies during it’s history ( and Macedonia is not on the list !)
    Bulgaria has been an enemy of Macedonia for a long time. It has occasionally behaved like a friend, when convenient.
    You have your new country and you have managed to get in to fight with all neighbors already (apart from SRB).
    Our country isn't new, only its independence is. And we have disagreements with Serbia also, such as the church issue. So you've no need to worry, when they need to they act just as idiotic as your kind do.
    Put your efforts into building a more stable multiethnic society in Macedonia instead…
    Why don't you put your efforts into building a multiethnic Bulgaria and let Macedonians worry about Macedonia.

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  • Risto the Great
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    Originally posted by GeorgiDimitrov View Post
    Now go and ask your father or grandfather how he felt about Bulgaria back in time.
    They thought the Bulgarians would help them. But soon found out they were as useless as the rest of them. That is what the Macedonians thought about the Bulgarians. Do you doubt it?

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  • Momce Makedonce
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    Originally posted by GeorgiDimitrov View Post
    Now what I do not understand is where this hatred is coming from and why? Bulgaria have had many enemies during it’s history ( and Macedonia is not on the list !) , but this is just a history and it is in the past. Nowadays we do trade and have good relations with Turkey, for example.
    Why is this new propaganda against Bulgaria today? You have your new country and you have managed to get in to fight with all neighbors already (apart from SRB).
    Another thing that I do not understand is why do you get this way, instead of concentration into the real problem you have, which is inside your country. Put your efforts into building a more stable multiethnic society in Macedonia instead…
    When will the Macedonians in Bulgaria ( Pirin Macedonia ) get their rights? When will you admit what you did to the Macedonian Jews in WW2? When will you admit that Pirin was given to you in 1913 and was always Macedonian beforehand? When will you realise that Goce Delcev, Dame Gruev, Sandanski e.t.c were Macedonians who fought for Macedonia? When will you apologize for manipulating history and causing grief upon our people?

    When all this happens we might start talking about friendly relations...

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  • lavce pelagonski
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    The Bulgarian is funny. My grandmother had to fend for herself after my grandfather was forced to serve the Bulgarian army in sofija. Why don't you think before you post your propaganda.

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  • Dejan
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    Bulgarian Slavs are never to be trusted

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  • George S.
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    sO GD in your opinion Bulgaria is not the Problem.I thought it was the problem .Look at its stance on pirin etc & bulgarian propaganda.I would say bulgaria still harbors irrendist behaviour.It took pirin that it doesn't belong. to bulgaria.It now tries to hide its tracks by being friendly??Yes we do have a problem in pirin people aren't free to enjoy basic human rights.AS long as you desire more of macedonia we have a problem GD.

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  • GeorgiDimitrov
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    Now what I do not understand is where this hatred is coming from and why? Bulgaria have had many enemies during it’s history ( and Macedonia is not on the list !) , but this is just a history and it is in the past. Nowadays we do trade and have good relations with Turkey, for example.
    Why is this new propaganda against Bulgaria today? You have your new country and you have managed to get in to fight with all neighbors already (apart from SRB).
    Another thing that I do not understand is why do you get this way, instead of concentration into the real problem you have, which is inside your country. Put your efforts into building a more stable multiethnic society in Macedonia instead…

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  • GeorgiDimitrov
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    This is the history written by the Serbain post WW2 propaganda. Now go and ask your father or grandfather how he felt about Bulgaria back in time.

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  • George S.
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    WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 14, 2011 PDF Print E-mail
    Anton Popov

    Anton Popov dying for a new world which will warm with the light, with the beauty

    anton-popovAnton Popov (Igumenec village, Petrich, Pirin Macedonia, 23. VII 1915 - Sofia, 20. X 1942) - Macedonian poet, short story writer, journalist, national activist. Graduated from high school in Nevrokop in 1933 and several years taught in the homeland. In 1936 he enrolled at the State Higher School of Finance and Administrative Sciences in Sofia. Founder and member of the Macedonian Literary Circle (1938-1941). Participate in national and anti-fascist movement. Love of country Macedonia, its history and tradition, her freedom and future are subject to consummate his literary and journalistic work. Through his own example shows how love and defend their homeland. Along with Nicholas Vapcarov was arrested and sentenced to death. The letter before shooting wrote: "I am dying for a new world which will warm with the light, with the beauty, so that my sacrifice for him is nothing. Puffed with pride the name of his people, for which they worked fine until the last moment, for whose good future die. Popov was among the first writers who followed and affirmed Macedonian national thought.

    Anton Popov was born in revolutionary family on July 23, 1915 in the village Igumenec (Petrich) in Pirin Macedonia. Constantine Popstojanov grandfather was killed in an ambush of Turks perished in such an ambush and uncle of his father Mitre Stojanov. His father who defended the interests of peasants, was hanged by Supremacists on October 22, 1923.

    His primary Anton Popov wins in his native village. Then he studied in Petrich, shifted in Samokov, where he tripped over participation in anti-fascist student circle. She continues her education in Nevrokop where she completed high school in 1933.

    That same year Anton becomes a teacher in his native village. The next school year in the village uchitelstvuva Skrt, then returns to his native village. Popov teacher strives to create better conditions for their students and educated as worthy citizens: spravedlivi proud, bold and independent, they love their native Macedonian land and we respect all people on earth. He takes and arrange boarding and kitchen for poor students, which placed more than 100 children. At the same time Anton continues as father to defend their neighbors from different gangs.

    Anton Popov trying to issue a Macedonian newspaper, but his efforts failed because of determined resistance of power. Disappointed, he longs to go to Sofia and expects to find related party "people with souls, minds ..". Soon wishes be fulfilled. In 1936 Anton Popov wrote the State Higher School of Finance and Administrative Sciences in Sofia, and the autumn of 1937 he became a clerk in the Sofia municipality.

    In early November 1938 formed the Macedonian literary circle, in whose establishment Anton took active participation. Three years Anton worked tirelessly in Society. Quite often he held lectures on poetry or short stories, participated in organizing literary readings, field trips, gatherings and assemblies of emigration. Moreover he stole prominent writers against the war, participated in the work of the Macedonian party group, wrote stories, poetry, articles and leisure reading among other Macedonian historical literature.

    The Macedonian literary circle Anton Popov form completely as Macedonian patriot, as a loyal son of his enslaved people and at the same time as the fiery fighter for the happiness of all people. Antoci Popov wanted Macedonia and the Macedonian people with pure love, tender, after immense strength and width. That love was ready to sacrifice. No chance in his last letter he wrote: "I am dying proud name of my father. Puffed with pride the name of my people, for which worked fine until the last moment, for whose good future die! "

    In his riveting travelogue "Travel notes and thoughts" he writes: ".. there is my homeland ... There is my Yarrow Pirin, the first years enrolled children with songs, stories and legends in my soul that stands high snowy blue shoulders in the highest, which zakoval eyes away in space, drawing them to look sharp borders of my homeland - to Shar, the Aegean, the Rhodopes and Rila. " At the same time in his last letter Anton Popov wrote: "I am dying for a new world which will warm to such a bright light, with such beauty, that my sacrifice will be nothing for him!"

    Anton Popov in his poems express the gentle love for his homeland against his people, expressing his faith in the recent liberation and unification of Macedonia. In svoitz reports that reveal suffering plight of workers, slash shocking images of exploitation of tobacco manufacturers, women and children. From the title of his stories reflected their content. Here are some of them: "The pain of our juzhnaci", "So work and suffer tobacco", "He otkradnuva unfulfilled childhood dreams," "Above the clouds are dense Pirin".

    In autumn 1941, together with his inseparable friend Nicholas Vapcarov, he joined the party work in the military center of the BCP. Anton Popov started the illegal life fulfilled with m hazards risks. He carries people from the composition of the Central Committee of the app app purchases and they prepared food, carry weapons m cash late at night, skillfully destroys traces of the watchful eye of police. In their illegal activities he involves his mother and sister. This head of combat groups.

    But the enemy does not sleep. The group is lured provocateur and a few months later breakthrough occurs. On 4 March Vapcarov caught. Anton Popov although there is some possibility to hide, but he did not take nothing. Deemed to carry on the work, especially after such a breakthrough. But police after his tragp on April 24, 1942 has arrested ..

    On July 22, the military court pronounced its verdict. The death was sentenced Anton Ivanov, Atanas Romanov, Nicholas Vapcarov Anton Popov, Petar Bogdanov and Georgi Minchev. In the court room tactics disbelief. Then he heard moaning and crying nearby. The same day married fiancee Rosica Manolova. Shot on 20 October 1942 together Anton Ivanov, Atanas Romanov, Nicholas Vapcarov Anton Popov, Petar Bogdanov and Georgi Minchev

    But before zagrakta kartechnicata its sinister song, listen to other famous, beautiful song that comes from the breast of unbreakable fearless fighters:

    "He will fall into battle for freedom, he dies. . . "

    In the queue, with a burning face, with a view to the future, presenting you the Macedonian nation free and united and bright future for all mankind, with a strong singing voice and neprezhaliviot Anton Popov.

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  • makedonche
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    TLWR
    Outstanding find!!!!!!!!!!

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  • The LION will ROAR
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    Бугарските фашистички власти го прогонувале Антон Попов меѓудругото и бидејќи напишал статија за Гоце Делчев, во која се залагал за самостојна македонска република, односно, на некој начин го продолжил делото на Делчев




    Антон Попов, заменикот на Вапцаров бил прогонуван и осуден на смрт од бугарските про-фашистички власти, поради напис за Гоце Делчев во којшто се залагал за самостојна македонска република...

    Никола Вапцаров и Антон Попов биле погубени на денешен ден пред 71 година. Слава им на македонските патриоти!

    Google Translator:-
    Anton Popov, Deputy Vapcarov was prosecuted and sentenced to death by pro-fascist Bulgarian authorities because of Gotse Delchev article in which he advocated for an independent Macedonian republic ...


    Антон Попов умира за еден нов свет, којшто ќе огрее со толку светлина, со толку убавина

    Антон Попов умира за еден нов свет, којшто ќе огрее со толку светлина, со толку убавина


    Anton Popov and Nikola Vapcarov.
    (Anton Popov, "Dnevnik", young Macedonia, 1938).





    Дел од творештвото на Вапцаров, поради коешто бил прогонуван од бугарските фашистички власти...



    Смртната пресуда...
    The death sentence
    Last edited by The LION will ROAR; 07-23-2013, 11:36 PM.

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  • lavce pelagonski
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    Debate in the U.S. for the treatment of Jews from Bulgaria

    Have a read of the article in full, it is translated from google. It is interesting to note what Darko thinks of the Bulgarians, I have highlighted it in red.

    Debate in the U.S. for the treatment of Jews from Bulgaria
    Darko Mitrevski: Come in and both the other and the third, let him sue Washington!

    Upon the request of the Bulgarian Embassy in Washington a little squares in the city to be named after Dimitar Peshev, Bulgarian credited for saving the Bulgarian Jews from deportation, and after the Holocaust Museum in Washington as a counter-pointed the deportation of 11,000 Jews from Bulgaria, that was exactly the theme of the discredited Macedonian film "Third Half" by the Bulgarians, for this talk to the director and screenwriter of the film, Darko Mitrevski.

    Bulgaria received a slap from Washington precisely the topic that you fiercely attacking you for "Third Half" - is not disputed rescue of Bulgarian Jews from the concentration camps, but it is arguable that we Bulgarians, allies of Hitler, sent 11,343 Jews from Macedonia and northern Greece Nazi camps. This looks like some sort of satisfaction for you?

    When six months ago I was asked what I like about this battle, I replied, with ten goals difference. Not because I am a very gifted football, but because it is spoken is one hundred percent true, which can be checked in all the museums, historical institutes and universities in this white world (except in Bulgaria!), And that my political opponents speak a hundred percent lie. Bulgarian MEPs threatened with lawsuits in Strasbourg for the film "The Third Half" Bulgarian government tried to obstruct Macedonia's integration into the European Union - and remember that some "Macedonian intellectuals" just in me found guilty of failing to "Macedonian EU integration "(whatever that means). Well here, Come and both the other and the third, let him sue Washington! If they punch, of course.

    But there is another - at least for me - stunning work: a couple exceptions, Macedonia lacked any public debate or response to these attacks. Not heard a voice from historians, journalists, politicians (whether government or opposition), writers, artists, university professors, public figures, the Jewish community, the church, the academy ... There was something unheard of: a local art to be branded a ( follow me) nerdy, fashizoidna, anti-Semitic and anti-Macedonian policy - and nobody in Macedonia it does not affect. Year and a half through the movie spit homeland, and in no country do not feel threatened, nor invited to respond. Somehow it was treated as a private dispute between me and the Bulgarian state.

    Well, with this I got this dispute. The laurels are just mine, you're zachinam stuffed them in Delight will have you eating in my garden in Los Angeles.

    The Bulgarian historians and politicians were easy to trumpet all the bells of America to the European Union that "Third Half" falsifies history, it was "Hitler film", "provocation of the Macedonian government", "film about hatred towards Bulgarians'" another forgery which builds on the Macedonian identity ". Now that you got such a strong ally of the subject, as I will explain Bulgarian protests against the film its pointless and lobbies that are not funded, not showing ...

    First of all, let's not use the term "Bulgaria". I have nothing against Bulgaria, which I think we share a common history - in a way that common history shared by Germany and Austria (and still no normal in Berlin, Hamburg or Munich would not dare to deny the existence of the Austrian nation!). Bulgaria is a country in whose home turf, at the initiative of the Bulgarian Church and Bulgarian intellectuals were rescued nearly 50,000 Jews at the hands of pro-Nazi King Boris III and his puppet gang: Release Philota, Gabrovo Minister and Commissioner Belev (one and all declared fascist and anti-Semite ). No I biev battle against Bulgaria and the Bulgarian people. In fact, any battle I have no intention Arabia against anybody - but when I attacked the ideological descendants of Bogdan Philota, I just defended his work, something that every director would do.

    And as far as lobbying for prohibition, "Third Half" in Macedonia saw 90,000 spectators, was shown around the United States, signed a contract for regular kinodistribucija in France, Germany, Australia, Canada, China, South Korea and Japan, Spring will welcome the universities of Oxford, Zagreb, Munich, Moscow ... To where you touch the power of lobbying as I felt not even for a second? Probably the border in Kyustendil.

    Then Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov, among other things, that directly attack you do "Hitler film" for Bulgarians. "Bulgaria has never had a swastika flag. We never mix. On the contrary, the first to recognize Macedonia, worked to abolish visas for you, help you and now we say - with hitlerski film, "he said and then ended with celebration" For we found that topic? ". What I'd ordered at the moment?

    Before you answer, please note that Boris is currently no longer prime minister of Bulgaria - Bulgarian citizen but ordinary, as I am a citizen of Macedonia and the United States. So, my response was not addressed to the national institution representing the former badigard of Todor Zhivkov, but to him personally.

    Like this:

    Boyko, do you have Internet at home?

    If you have, you naminuvash on YouTube?

    If naminuvash, if you watched the interview NETA Cohen, the woman whose life story was filmed movie "The Third Half", given to Spielberg's Shoah Foundation-?

    In this interview NETA clearly says that her family - her father, barely adult brothers, sister six years, cousins, cousins, strikovcite, aunts, all her blood relatives - one and all in the gas chambers of Treblinka had sent the Bulgarian army and police .

    Boyko, talking about women in a single day you lost your entire lineage, all their loved ones, everything she had - at the hands of people who wore uniforms of the state you govern! And not just one woman, but the whole nation.

    Boyko, screw you what I thought a bystander in Balkan politics, me and you (probably) consider me a "traitor to Bulgarianness", "Macedonian language freak", "the Serb-communist mercenary", "Judeo-Masonic agent" "German-Russian element" and that everything I did.

    Batali, most seriously telling you!

    We're talking about human accidents.

    For great personal tragedies.

    For tips black lives.

    For all that you called it "a lie" and called me "a liar".

    Well, I have no problem with you calling me a 'liar'. From your mouth it sounds like a compliment. But what do we do with people who have been deprived of everything? And do they lie?

    Think well what you answer.

    Is there announced that the film will soon begin to show in Bulgaria?

    "Third Half" will be displayed in Bulgaria when the Bulgarian state and its security services will allow its presentation on Bulgarian territory or cease to intimidate all those distributors who have expressed a desire to commercially demonstrate this movie.

    In other words - when Bulgaria, a member of the European Union, will become a democratic and free country in which intellectual work and free thought are not sanctioned by the highest authorities of the executable and the legislature.

    Until then - WWII in this part of the Balkans is not over.

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