The "Greek Minority" in Albania are Orthodox Vlachs

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  • Amphipolis
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    So, it seems that the Orthodox Church of Albania is still fully functioning in... Greek? Any info or opinions from Albania?

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  • tchaiku
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    Prior to the early 20th century, there was a small Greek minority in Southeastern Bulgaria, living largely between Varna to the north, Topolovgrad to the west and the Black Sea to the east, with a scattered rural population in the inland regions of the Strandzha and Sakar mountains.[1] The Greek-inhabited places in Strandzha and Sakar were the town of Topolovgrad and 9 villages: Oreshnik, Kapitan Petko Voyvoda, Sinapovo, Chukarovo, Golyam Manastir, Malak Manastir, Sharkovo, Malko Sharkovo, and Mamarchevo.[4] However, a large part of this population, the so-called Kariots,[5] is regarded by ethnographers (including Konstantin Josef Jireček) as having been only Greek-identifying, but of Bulgarian origin; (see Grecomans).

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  • Carlin
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    Arvanito-Vlach song from Mouzakia, Albania (Fier-Φέρικε-Φιέρι) - video

    Βλάχικο τραγούδι απο τη Μουζακιά -Μιζουκέα ΑλβανίαςFier- Φέρικε-Φιέρι ''Μι κισί ντάντα κου όιλι-Με έστειλε η γαγιά με τα πρόβατα''Τραγουδάει το μουσικό σχήμ...

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  • tchaiku
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    Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
    Uh… according to the official Albanian data, Greek was the biggest minority (around 2,5%) in the post-war period and now they are 0,9% while Vlachs (Aromanians) are about 0,3%. Gypsies are also 0,3%.

    The problem is that the Greek Party has taken more than 4% in elections (that was its’ highest percentage in mid-90s). Orthodox Christians are 6,7%.
    Greece uses inflated numbers who has the ethnic Greek minority about 320k-400k (more than 10 percent). Also for the Vlachs:

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  • tchaiku
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    Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
    Uh… according to the official Albanian data, Greek was the biggest minority (around 2,5%) in the post-war period and now they are 0,9% while Vlachs (Aromanians) are about 0,3%. Gypsies are also 0,3%.

    The problem is that the Greek Party has taken more than 4% in elections (that was its’ highest percentage in mid-90s). Orthodox Christians are 6,7%.
    Vlach and Hellene does not fit well together. In a historical context; the ancient Hellenes were assimilated in Romans when Christianization took over, before Slavic migration. By the first Millennium the Slavs were the majority in the Byzantine Empire. However to call the region that name it was given is acceptable. In few words you are Vlachs of Northern Epirus.
    Last edited by tchaiku; 04-16-2017, 06:51 AM.

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  • Amphipolis
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    Originally posted by Epirot View Post
    It is true! Greece wants to count Vlachs of Albania and Macedonia as 'a suppressed Greek minority' inside these countries. Even Tom Winnifrith, a British scholar of Vlach descent observed the same phenomenon that Vlachs are counted by Greece as 'greek minority' inside Albania!!! What next? No wonder if tomorrow gypsies in Albania would be the third 'greek minority' of Albania...lol
    Uh… according to the official Albanian data, Greek was the biggest minority (around 2,5%) in the post-war period and now they are 0,9% while Vlachs (Aromanians) are about 0,3%. Gypsies are also 0,3%.

    The problem is that the Greek Party has taken more than 4% in elections (that was its’ highest percentage in mid-90s). Orthodox Christians are 6,7%.

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  • tchaiku
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    Are majority of those Vlachs latinised Hellenes or just new commers?

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  • George S.
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    Epirot It's true the greeks will twist & turn the truth to suit their propaganda.They will never admit of a seperate Macedonian people in their region.Don't be surprised if they do that to the gypsies in albania.It's all greek to the greeks.
    Last edited by George S.; 10-20-2010, 06:44 AM. Reason: ed

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  • Epirot
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    It is true! Greece wants to count Vlachs of Albania and Macedonia as 'a suppressed Greek minority' inside these countries. Even Tom Winnifrith, a British scholar of Vlach descent observed the same phenomenon that Vlachs are counted by Greece as 'greek minority' inside Albania!!! What next? No wonder if tomorrow gypsies in Albania would be the third 'greek minority' of Albania...lol

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  • TrueMacedonian
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    Originally posted by Onur View Post
    Did you know that Ottoman government officially recognized Vlachs as a minority in Macedonia(incl. Aegean side) at late 19th century and there was even Vlach representatives in the Ottoman parliament of early 20th century. They had their own churches and bibles in their own aromenian language but you know, they magically disappeared from Aegean Macedonia after Balkan wars.
    It sounds very typical after the Balkan Wars Onur. The Vlachs were the intelligentsia of modern 'greece'. The ancient Hellenes would look at them as aliens in their city-states if they could raise their dust and bones from the dead. But the ufologists in athena are still trying hard to convince everyone otherwise

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  • Onur
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    Originally posted by The LION will ROAR View Post
    The Vlachs of modern Greece!


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    a vlach • Jul 13, 2009 @9:59 am

    We, the vlachs(aromanians), are not greeks. We are aromanians. We call oruselves armanji and we are not connected with the greeks. They refuse to recognize the vlach minority in Greece, wich is the biggest minority in Greece. The greeks dont recognize ANY minority in their country. They say “Greece is only for greeks”.

    Armanlu nu cheari


    Did you know that Ottoman government officially recognized Vlachs as a minority in Macedonia(incl. Aegean side) at late 19th century and there was even Vlach representatives in the Ottoman parliament of early 20th century. They had their own churches and bibles in their own aromenian language but you know, they magically disappeared from Aegean Macedonia after Balkan wars.

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  • The LION will ROAR
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    The Vlachs of modern Greece!


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    a vlach • Jul 13, 2009 @9:59 am

    We, the vlachs(aromanians), are not greeks. We are aromanians. We call oruselves armanji and we are not connected with the greeks. They refuse to recognize the vlach minority in Greece, wich is the biggest minority in Greece. The greeks dont recognize ANY minority in their country. They say “Greece is only for greeks”.

    Armanlu nu cheari

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  • Bill77
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    You are truely a Slayer Of The Modern greeks.

    You know what.....I am starting to feel sorry for them.............................................. .................................................. ......NOT.

    But seriously, it must be tough on them reading what mongrels they really are.

    It is also easier to prove there are Martians than it is to prove there are real Greeks.

    TM keep on bumping mate i am loving it.

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  • TrueMacedonian
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    Shades of SoM,,,,, Bump lol

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