Nation and State: The creation of the Modern Greek

[Soldier of Macedon]

Lets. For the meantime, I will move this to Exposing Lies and Propaganda, I think given its content it is more suitable there.

[Risto the Great]

Nobody challenged a thing.
They hit "alt + tab" ... went to Wikipedia and found nothing to disprove anything you presented. Lets give them some time though.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Pathetic little Greek. Several responses from you and the closest you came to commenting on the article was a probe into who the author is, you little, little moron.

Is there something false in the article that you wish to challenge?

You fought for your own freedom? How, by murdering women and children for fun and then celebrating your 'heroic' actions in songs of liberty? By waiting for your European savoiurs to come and rescue you from the Turks? Guess again, you liberated nothing, you were handed a state and identity in which you had no involvement, there is so much artificial wrapping around your so-called "Hellenic" nation that it is truly comical in every sense of the word.

[Risto the Great]

Great distractions.
Did your parents dumb you down or was it a solid Greek education?

How about commenting on the original post?

[mbourdes]

So, apparently you can't read.
International respect ... hmmm, not!

Ahh, go on ... gimme the Winston Churchill one again. It always thrills me when my bank sends me a feel good letter.

Can't help it if your bank was broke.

[mbourdes]

If only the RoM would achieve that status. You would have the power to Veto.

[Risto the Great]

So, apparently you can't read.
International respect ... hmmm, not!

Ahh, go on ... gimme the Winston Churchill one again. It always thrills me when my bank sends me a feel good letter.

[mbourdes]

thats a good article som.

ebi veter oops sorry mbourdes, if you have a criticsm of it lets see it. its true modern greece was sold a better lie and many of its ethnically insecure and ignorant inhabitants swallowed it hook line and sinker, the once that didnt, were forced into accepting.

you ebi veter man are a product of this

Who swallowed the better lie?
A country that fought for its independance, gaining international respect in the process,
or a bunch of hobo's that were waiting to be liberated by everyone, except themselves, believing in "promises" from communist regimes for their so called independance.

[Risto the Great]

Great post SoM,
though I much prefer Capodistria spelled as Capo D'Istria.

The foreign powers from Europe, without whom there could be no victory, now took it upon themselves to begin the process of creating a new state carved out of Ottoman territory in the strategically important Mediterranean region. The London Conference, held in February 1830 and attended by Britain, France and Russia, was the first step. The borders of the new state were drawn up while a monarch was to be elected at a later date, however, throughout the whole proceedings there were no representatives from the Christian peoples in the newly liberated territories and the new state’s leaders were not consulted about the ensuing treaty.

Clearly the Treaty of Bucharest had a precedent and this was it. God forbid the locals would influence the decision.

Makes one choke on one's koulourakia.

[Delodephius]

The authors' credibility and knowledge plays a vital role in determining the quality and substance of their writings.

Nope. That is an ad hominem argument and carries no weight. What matters is the final product of the author, his credibility the least and his knowledge even less. An Oxford professor doesn't deserve more credibility of a village idiot. It's what they say that counts, objectively, separating the author from the work, and judging the work in that fashion. It's harder, hence people merely judge the author to discredit the work and don't really care about the laws of logic.

[osiris]

thats a good article som.

ebi veter oops sorry mbourdes, if you have a criticsm of it lets see it. its true modern greece was sold a better lie and many of its ethnically insecure and ignorant inhabitants swallowed it hook line and sinker, the once that didnt, were forced into accepting.

you ebi veter man are a product of this

Albanians, Vlachs, Bulgarians, speakers of other tongues, rejoice! And ready yourselves all to become Romans. Abandoning your barbaric tongues, speech and customs, so that to your descendants they may appear as myths……..

[mbourdes]

The authors' credibility and knowledge plays a vital role in determining the quality and substance of their writings.
I never attacked the author of this narrative.
I was trying to ascertain if the information presented is based on opinion or is factual, that is all.
No need to be paranoid boys.
Relax, the truth is out there, neither you or I can change that.

[makedonin]

it is good one, SOM

distructing the attention with irelevant points is good way to draw attention from the sore problems. Grks are good at it.

[Soldier of Macedon]

No, it was written by me. The relevance remains with the content of the article, not with who wrote it.

The typical Greek tactic of attacking an author rather than tackling the content of an article is a nice (and in your case timely) reminder of how pathetic the internet Neohellenic warriors are.

[mbourdes]

Was this article written by Mr. Stefov by any chance?