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  • Thorvald
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    • Jan 2009
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    The Xinjiang Region of China

    Chinese people are maybe the symbol for the Mongoloid race. The first question that emerges in our mind when we see an Asian face is: are you Chinese? Ev...


    Chinese people are maybe the symbol for the Mongoloid race. The first question that emerges in our mind when we see an Asian face is: are you Chinese?

    Even if many are Japanese, Korean, Thai, Vietnamese and so on.

    But what people do not know is that during the Antiquity, while Egyptians were building their impressive pyramids and Greeks were fighting for Troy, Western China was in fact inhabited by blond-haired blue-eyed white people.

    Now, a group of Chinese archaeologists is attempting to identify a 2,800-year-old mummy of an Caucasian man found in an ancient tomb from Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (Northwest China), another from a long series.

    The well-preserved mummy is likely the one of a shaman and has been under examination since it has been found in 2003.

    The scientists were puzzled by the presence of a sack of marijuana leaves that archaeologists found buried with the leather-coat bound mummy.

    "From his outfit and the marijuana leaves, which have been confirmed by international specialists to be ingredients for narcotic, we assume the man had been a shaman and had been between 40 and 50 years old when he died," noted historian Li Xiao explained.

    The 2003 exploration on the area brought to light 600 mummies from 2,000 area tombs.

    These mummies of the white people that once inhabited Western China were not embalmed, like the Egyptian ones, but they were unwittingly preserved from decay by local climate: extreme summer heat and aridity, bitter winter cold, and salty soil.

    When researchers first discovered the mummies, they were astonished by their certain European appearance, with blond or red hair, prominent noses, mustaches and beards, tartan-weave garments, and jaunty feathered caps.

    The mummy people, called the Tocharians, left even a written language that is clearly Indo-European.

    Also, in old Chinese chronicles, contacts with red-haired people from the west are depicted.

    Any thoughts on this subject?
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  • Daskalot
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    • Sep 2008
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    #2
    Interesting, are the any more sources on the above topic?
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    • Thorvald
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      • Jan 2009
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      #3
      Yes, but I've to search for it.

      If you have patient, I'll post it later.
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      • King Makedon
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        • Apr 2009
        • 187

        #4
        Yes, chinese sources confirmed that once there lived blond chinese of white race. but why are they always saying chinese.???
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        • Coolski
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          • Sep 2008
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          #5
          The term Chinese is only really used to refer to the national group. The more correct ethnic term for the asiatic group of people that form the majority of China's population is Han.

          Even today there are many people in the muslim northwestern Ughur state of China that have light brown/blond hair and blue/green eyes. One such example is this girl from the Uighur province.



          (sourced from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people)


          The Uighur language is definitely turkic too. There was a documentary on them and i messaged my supervisor (Turkish) to watch it and he could understand bits of it, similar to us listening to Russian. They are known as Chinese because they fall within the PRC, just as ethnic Macedonians are known as Greeks because they fall within the Hellenic Republic. China has 56 distinct ethnic groups within its borders. They have education in their mother tongue. It's miles ahead of Greece in terms of human rights for this reason.
          Last edited by Coolski; 08-05-2009, 11:40 PM.
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          • Risto the Great
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            • Sep 2008
            • 15658

            #6
            Ummm, you do realise there is a theory that the Chinese (Asians) were created from an Alien race.

            I think the following link has something to do with it.



            I actually look quite Chinese after a bout of heavy drinking. Probably more so if I smoked pot.
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            • Soldier of Macedon
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              • Sep 2008
              • 13670

              #7
              I have heard of these white people in China before, I have seen some Turks use this is a basis for proposing the suggestion that the original Turks were blond haired and blue eyed. Hard to believe, but I don't know enough on the subject as of yet, to comment further.

              Thorvald, is there anything more to the indo-european language that was discovered? Inscriptions, words, etc?
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              • Commander Bond
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                • Nov 2008
                • 72

                #8
                Years ago I watched documentary on SBS that showed the existence of a mummified body in a cave somewhere in the northern region of China. They showed a female mummy almost perfectly preserved with long blonde hair and dressed in tartan with what appeared to be Celtic jewellery (picture Christopher Lambert in Highlander).

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                • Soldier of Macedon
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                  • Sep 2008
                  • 13670

                  #9
                  Here's something on the topic.

                  In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                  • makedonin
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1668

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
                    From that one I really like this sentence:

                    It underlines, once again, that so many cultures, whether ancient or modern, are genetically a mixture of so many races, contrary to so many political ideas of “pure genes”.
                    To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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                    • Risto the Great
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15658

                      #11
                      But Makedonin, this knowledge would HORRIFY some people.
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

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                      • makedonin
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1668

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                        But Makedonin, this knowledge would HORRIFY some people.
                        The truth and reality are always horrifying RtG.

                        Example, Death is reality, and is horrifying for all of us! It is extreme but extreme examples always depict sharply what is meant.

                        If we understand the sentence and apply it while we look back in the past, we would be able to comprehand more than we do now.

                        Than and only than, the politics will be out of history for good.

                        As long as politics exploit history, we are hudge step away from peace and prosper between nations.
                        Last edited by makedonin; 08-07-2009, 03:54 PM.
                        To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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                        • Risto the Great
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15658

                          #13
                          Deep thinking.
                          Agreed!
                          Risto the Great
                          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

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                          • Soldier of Macedon
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                            • Sep 2008
                            • 13670

                            #14
                            The Uyghur (Turkic Muslims) of Xinjiang in China


                            At least six people died in violence on Saturday night in the City of Kashgar, northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, confirmed local authorities.

                            Two suspects hijacked a truck at 11:45 p.m. Saturday, stabbing the driver and ramming into pedestrians. The pair later hacked the passers-by.

                            At least six people were killed on the spot and 28 others were injured. One of the suspects died in the incident while the other was nabbed.

                            Before the incident two blasts were heard. The first occurred at about 10:30 p.m. from a minivan, while the other was heard almost at the same time from a food street, where the hijack took place.

                            Xinhua reporters are on their way to the scenes.

                            Police shot down 14 rioters who attacked a police station and killed four people in Xinjiang's Hotan city on July 18.
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                            • Soldier of Macedon
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 13670

                              #15
                              A little more with regard to these 'white' people who once inhabited China. As mentioned earlier, they appear to be a group now known as Tocharians, who spoke an Indo-European language that became extinct around the 9th century AD. This language has been identified as an apparent Centum language, which could point to a migration from western Europe across the Satem areas and into Central Asia. Their demise may have came about when Turkic Uyghur tribes migrated into the area.

                              The Tarim mummies have become protagonists in a political dispute over who should control the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region.

                              Scholars generally agree that Uighurs did not migrate to what is now Xinjiang from Central Asia until the 10th century. But, uncomfortably for the Chinese authorities, evidence from the mummies also offers a far more nuanced history of settlement than the official Chinese version.

                              By that official account, Zhang Qian, a general of the Han dynasty, led a military expedition to Xinjiang in the second century B.C. His presence is often cited by the ethnic Han Chinese when making historical claims to the region.

                              The mummies show, though, that humans entered the region thousands of years earlier, and almost certainly from the west.

                              “From the evidence available, we have found that during the first 1,000 years after the Loulan Beauty, the only settlers in the Tarim Basin were Caucasoid.”
                              East Asian peoples only began showing up in the eastern portions of the Tarim Basin about 3,000 years ago, Mair said, while the Uighur peoples arrived after the collapse of the Orkon Uighur Kingdom, largely based in modern day Mongolia, around the year 842.

                              Solid as a warrior of the Caledonii tribe, the man's hair is reddish brown flecked with grey, framing high cheekbones, a long nose, full lips and a ginger beard. When he lived three thousand years ago, he stood six feet tall, and was buried wearing a red twill tunic and tartan leggings. He looks like a Bronze Age European. In fact, he's every inch a Celt. Even his DNA says so...................

                              DNA testing confirms that he and hundreds of other mummies found in Xinjiang's Tarim Basin are of European origin.............

                              The eastern Celts spoke a now-dead language called Tocharian, which is related to Celtic languages and part of the Indo-European group. They seem to have been a peaceful folk, as there are few weapons among the Cherchen find and there is little evidence of a caste system...........
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