NY Daily Tribune, Turkish constitution attended by Macedonians, 1908!

[Daskalot]

Taken from The New York Daily Tribune, September 7th 1908.

[makedonin]

Greek/Bulgar response:

"no no man, you get this all wrong, Macedonians were always Greeks, but there were Bulgarian Macedonians in geographical sence bla bla bla...."

what a salad


Good find Daskalot

[Daskalot]

Greek/Bulgar response:

"no no man, you get this all wrong, Macedonians were always Greeks, but there were Bulgarian Macedonians in geographical sence bla bla bla...."

what a salad


Good find Daskalot

Thank you Makedonin, I would really like to hear what our Greek and Bulgarian parrots have to say about this........

[makedonin]

Thank you Makedonin, I would really like to hear what our Greek and Bulgarian parrots have to say about this........

no problem.

by the way there was a guy here who got banned and always repeat the same question, how come's Macedonians got excluded in the Mayor treaties and nagotiation.

well treaties like Bucharest etc. were mostly secred one, between those who were making their plans of expanding their theritories on cost of Macedonia.

but as one see, on open nagotiation, treaties or as here a tribune, Macedonians were present, since they got also the chanse to know of this Tribune.

[toothpaste]

Ok 2-3 american newspapers' articles...on the other hand there are 3.500 or more documents (official and unofficial) were no ethnic Macedonians are recorded in the area..only Greeks,Bulgarians,Serbians,Turks,Jews,Armenians...


The documents are so many, that if someone tried to present them ,he would accused of spamming and propaganda.

[Daskalot]

Ok 2-3 american newspapers' articles...on the other hand there are 3.500 or more documents (official and unofficial) were no ethnic Macedonians are recorded in the area..only Greeks,Bulgarians,Serbians,Turks,Jews,Armenians...


The documents are so many, that if someone tried to present them ,he would accused of spamming and propaganda.

You are completely correct, those documents that you speak of were for the greatest part provided by the nations that aimed to grab a part of Macedonia when the collapse of the Ottoman Empire was eminent.

And you are also correct, the documents were propaganda back then and so they are also today.

I will ask you kindly are you denying the existence of ethnic Macedonians, Toothpaste?

Each one of the Greeks,Bulgarians,Serbians,Turks,Jews,Armenians had a national church and religious community.

[makedonin]

You are completely correct, those documents that you speak of were for the greatest part provided by the nations that aimed to grab a part of Macedonia when the collapse of the Ottoman Empire was eminent.

A Britan Philhellene onece concluded:



IN THE BALKANS.; A Trip Through Macedonia -- The Land of Strife. April 18, 1903, Saturday

THE POINT:

....ROMANIAN SERVIAN AND BULGARIAN AGENTS ARE ALL SCRAMBLING FOR THE APPROPRIATION OF THESE ERRING SPIRITS, WHILE LEARNED PROFESSORS AT ST. PETERSBURG AND BUCHAREST, BELGRADE AND SOFIA ARE BUSY MANUFACTURING GENEALOGICAL TREES AND NATIONAL APPELATIONS FOR ALL AND SUNDRY OF THESE BEWILDERING APOSTLES OF EMANCIPATION...

[Daskalot]

This is what I am talking about Makedonin, thank you for providing this valuable information.

[toothpaste]

I will ask you kindly are you denying the existence of ethnic Macedonians, Toothpaste?
.

In 2008..?
No way.

But we must some time understand that nations are living...dying transforming..changing..getting assimilated...forming...
..... ...... ........

[makedonin]

In 2008..?
No way.

But we must some time understand that nations are living...dying transforming..changing..getting assimilated...forming...
..... ...... ........

Only the Hellenes have formed them selfs about 3000 years ago and never changed since than

This is what I am talking about Makedonin, thank you for providing this valuable information.

welcome, by the way I have this for about 4 years at least

[toothpaste]

Only the Hellenes have formed them selfs about 3000 years ago and never changed since than

I didnt say that.

[makedonin]

I didnt say that.

guess it was the Karman-li the "Makedonas" or the Dora, or the Greek state in general

[toothpaste]

A Britan Philhellene onece concluded:



IN THE BALKANS.; A Trip Through Macedonia -- The Land of Strife. April 18, 1903, Saturday

THE POINT:

....ROMANIAN SERVIAN AND BULGARIAN AGENTS ARE ALL SCRAMBLING FOR THE APPROPRIATION OF THESE ERRING SPIRITS, WHILE LEARNED PROFESSORS AT ST. PETERSBURG AND BUCHAREST, BELGRADE AND SOFIA ARE BUSY MANUFACTURING GENEALOGICAL TREES AND NATIONAL APPELATIONS FOR ALL AND SUNDRY OF THESE BEWILDERING APOSTLES OF EMANCIPATION...

I m sorry to disappoint you...but if this is a Greeks' friend article..then it implies that the only people in Macedonia are Greeks.

Note there are no "Greek agents" mentioned, manufacturing genealogical trees and national appellations ...
Obviously referring to the Committees and their efforts in Macedonia.

[toothpaste]

guess it was the Karman-li the "Makedonas" or the Dora, or the Greek state in general

Did they invite any Pakistani cousin ,grandchild of Alexander himself?

[makedonin]

I m sorry to disappoint you...but if this is a Greeks' friend article..then it implies that the only people in Macedonia are Greeks.

Note there are no "Greek agents" mentioned, manufacturing genealogical trees and national appellations ...
Obviously referring to the Committees and their efforts in Macedonia.

this is only excerpt of the article, so don't get the wrong impresion that the only people in Macedonia are Greeks. And in the excerpt he already mentioned that:"no one knows who is who and everybody is someone else".. I must say nothing has changed on the Balkans.

ofcourse there are no Greek agents mentioned because the Guy wan't to clean the Greeks, he is Phillhellene. In the rest of the article he praises the Greeks at high level.

by the way, the Greek agents were the Makedonomachos and Greek Patriarchists, and just cause the Phillhellene of the article avoids to mention them, does not means that they did not exist and didn't did their work.

But of course you will play the dumb card, since it fits you