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Old 06-26-2019, 08:32 AM   #11
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This makes absolute sense, when de-Macedonization is the agenda.

If you were to try and create a new identity, one that is not based on ethnic concepts or nation-state concepts, but rather a cosmopolitan one, you would take away the name and the deeper ancient roots (Macedonian name, ancient claims, institutional names renamed from Macedonian to 'national', giving up Cyrilus & Methodius, Tsar Samuel, etc via Prespa Agreement and Bulgarian Agreement), then you'd take away the roots that inspire national pride and identity such as more recent history and heroes (Goce Delcev, Ilinden, etc via Bulgarian agreement) and then you'd demote the importance and position of the dominant ethnic identity by prioritising others (language law, national celebrations of other holidays, etc) to create more and more confusion.

The last step might be to introduce another batch of people into the mix (like the refugees waiting to be settled) to help shift the ethnic balance further away from the dominant identity.

Give that one generation of co-existence and inter-marriage and you've just about wiped out the Macedonian identity and created a new, cosmopolitan identity that is based on citizenship, not nationality. The Greeks have already proven much of the formula with their de-nationalisation and assimilation of the Macedonians inthe Aegean part of Macedonia.

From a foreigners perspective, who doesn't care about the fact that it is essentially cultural genocide, they'd see it as a model for stabilising the region. Roll that out more widely and you can have a federation, because with no cultural competition or protection, nobody cares about the borders or who governs.

Easy enough to do when you have a passified nation who wont revolt.

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Old 06-26-2019, 01:56 PM   #12
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Give that one generation of co-existence and inter-marriage and you've just about wiped out the Macedonian identity and created a new, cosmopolitan identity that is based on citizenship, not nationality. The Greeks have already proven much of the formula with their de-nationalisation and assimilation of the Macedonians inthe Aegean part of Macedonia.
Yes but in Greece they enforced the "Greek" identity and Greek language on every ethnic group. In North Macedonia, they are not enforcing the "Macedonian" identity or language on people, instead they are adopting a Yugoslav model where the country is made up of many different ethnic groups, each with their own identity and language, paving the way for federalization.
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