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Old 11-15-2008, 03:56 AM   #1
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Europe yesterday stepped up attempts to reduce its exposure to potential Russian blackmail over energy supplies.

Today it unveiled an ambitious strategy aimed at weakening Russian giant Gazprom's domination of Europe's gas imports, The Guardian reads. On the eve of the Russia-EU summit today in France, the energy package released by the European commission highlighted Europe's dependence on Russian exports and sought to devise strategies to wean Europe off the addiction.

Of six energy projects pinpointed for development, commission officials said the two "absolute" priorities were to connect the three post-Soviet Baltic states of Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia to European power grids and to forge ahead with the so-called "southern gas corridor", which is supposed to transport gas from the Caspian basin to Europe while, for political reasons, bypassing the world's two biggest gas producers, Russia and Iran. Both projects are aimed at loosening Russia's grip.

By next year Brussels also aims to have set up a consortium of European companies to buy gas from the Caspian basin, to be shipped to Europe in a new pipeline from Azerbaijan, via Turkey and the Balkans, to Austria from 2013. Gazprom currently controls all the pipelines sending gas to Europe from the east.

Europe currently gets 42% of its gas, a third of its oil and a quarter of its hard coal from Russia. The commission estimates that by 2030 Europe will be importing 84% of its gas needs, up from 61% at present.
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Old 11-15-2008, 01:03 PM   #2
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This is great and all, but do we really want to do this, and in a way go against Russia, just to help Europe out?
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Old 11-15-2008, 04:18 PM   #3
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Why would Russia hate Macedonia if they accept the pipeline? They know very well the Macedonia is merely a "victim" in the process. If Russia showed some "love" to Macedonia, it would then be in a position to complain. To date,they have done nothing ... not even a decent kind word. I wish they did, but the lack of action is obvious.
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Why would Russia hate Macedonia if they accept the pipeline? They know very well the Macedonia is merely a "victim" in the process. If Russia showed some "love" to Macedonia, it would then be in a position to complain. To date,they have done nothing ... not even a decent kind word. I wish they did, but the lack of action is obvious.
I never said hate for one. Well we did just sign a no visa agreement with them, so their is more to it then you may think.
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Old 11-15-2008, 09:24 PM   #5
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Russia is pushing for a pipeline that skips the Republic of Macedonia altogether and goes through Bulgaria into the modern borders of Greece.
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Old 11-16-2008, 02:13 PM   #6
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Russia is pushing for a pipeline that skips the Republic of Macedonia altogether and goes through Bulgaria into the modern borders of Greece.
But are they doing it to piss us off? Or are they doing it to piss of the EU elites?
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They're not doing it to piss anyone off... they're doing it to increase their own position and sphere of influence
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Rogi is very correct in his observations.
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:13 AM   #9
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They're not doing it to piss anyone off... they're doing it to increase their own position and sphere of influence
Good enough reason to do it.

Basically, if it brings jobs, its a good thing. If its playing on the rift between the E.U and Russia - if that is their intention, then there could be consequences for Macedonia.
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Default Gas to Macedonia halted.

http://news.google.com.au/news/url?s...bEvNDqPFBsT22w

This is no good. Because of a dispute between Ukraine and Moscow, gas is no longer being supplied to us amongst the others. Where's the next nearest gas line? Who supplies Albania with gas?
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