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Old 06-18-2018, 05:06 AM   #1
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Default Latest official ethnic Births & Deaths Statistic 2017

BIRTHS ........2017 (2016):

MACEDONIANS...11,204...51,76%...(.12,047...52,37%)
ALBANIANS........7,404...34,04%.....(..7,774...33, 80%)
TURKS..................940.....4,32%....(...1,031. ...4,48%)
ROMA..............1,271.....5,84%....(...1,334.... 5,80%)
BOSNIAN............213.....0,98%....(......233.... 1,13%)
SERBIAN...................129.....0,59%....(...... 131....0,57%)

Total -*21,754*(23,002)

DEATHS - 2017:

MACEDONIAN.......15,005..73,85%
ALBANIAN........3,434..16,90%
TURKS..................476....2,34%
ROMA................476.....2,34%*
BOSNIAN............132....0,65%
SERBIAN...................397....1,95%

Total -*20,318

MARRIAGES

MACEDONIAN.........7,306..52,02%
ALBANIAN........4,971..36,07%
TURKS ..................538....3,90%
ROMA.................450...3,27%
BOSNIAN............114....0,83%
SERB....................86....0,62%

Total -*13,781


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http://www.stat.gov.mk/PublikaciiPoOblasti_en.aspx
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:25 AM   #2
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Isn't it interesting how the 2 Christian groups have more deaths than births, whereas all 4 Muslim groups have more births than deaths.
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The Albanians don't seem to be dying Albo. They must have a great life there! I have no idea what you've been whinging about all this time.
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Not only are they not dying they are breeding.. ahh the state sponsored lifestyle
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Old 06-18-2018, 05:34 AM   #5
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Imagine Albo draped in the Albanian flag in his little room high fiving himself, going look at those evil Slavs dying woohoo
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Isn't it interesting how the 2 Christian groups have more deaths than births, whereas all 4 Muslim groups have more births than deaths.
I think that's pretty much a global trend, certainly not restricted to just Macedonia...similar global correlations of births and deaths V education levels can also be made.
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Old 06-18-2018, 04:31 PM   #7
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Muslim birth rates are falling and will level out with non Muslim populations in 20 years. Just do a search on tfr in places like Iran, Turkey and compare historicallly. Same is true of the Albanians, the new generations is westernising.. look at Albania.
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Old 06-18-2018, 10:14 PM   #8
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BIRTHS ........2017 (2016):

MACEDONIANS...11,204...51,76%...(.12,047...52,37%)
ALBANIANS........7,404...34,04%.....(..7,774...33, 80%)
TURKS..................940.....4,32%....(...1,031. ...4,48%)
ROMA..............1,271.....5,84%....(...1,334.... 5,80%)
BOSNIAN............213.....0,98%....(......233.... 1,13%)
SERBIAN...................129.....0,59%....(...... 131....0,57%)

Total -*21,754*(23,002)

DEATHS - 2017:

MACEDONIAN.......15,005..73,85%
ALBANIAN........3,434..16,90%
TURKS..................476....2,34%
ROMA................476.....2,34%*
BOSNIAN............132....0,65%
SERBIAN...................397....1,95%

Total -*20,318

MARRIAGES

MACEDONIAN.........7,306..52,02%
ALBANIAN........4,971..36,07%
TURKS ..................538....3,90%
ROMA.................450...3,27%
BOSNIAN............114....0,83%
SERB....................86....0,62%

Total -*13,781


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http://www.stat.gov.mk/PublikaciiPoOblasti_en.aspx
This is all misinformation Albo. Macedonians as a whole have older demographics with a TFR below the Albanian one. However the Albanian TFR for Albanians in Macedonia is similar to the Albanians in Kosovo which is around 2.1.

So while Albanians have less deaths than Macedonians do on average they have a much higher emigration than Macedonians do.

The absolute highest percentage Albanians can gain in Macedonia is around 30% of the population. They do not have the demographic capacity to reach any higher - ever.

The best way to "guesstimate" future demographic trends in the country is to look at the number of students in primary and secondary education as the number of students for each Ethnicity is documented based on instruction in their native language.

So you can find the publications here

http://www.stat.gov.mk/PublikaciiPoO...id=41&rbrObl=5

Macedonian primary school students
2006/2007: 122,016 = 53,4% share of the total
2007/2008: 118,507 = 53,6%
2008/2009: 115,605 = 53,7%
2009/2010: 112,293 = 53,7%
2010/2011: 109,765 = 54,3%
2011/2012: 107,564 = 54,3%
2012/2013: 105,468 = 54.35%
2013/2014: 104,254 = 54.7%
2014/2015: 103,036 = 54.7%
2015/2016: 102,644 = 55.4%
2016/2017: 104,765 = 55.0%

14.1% Decrease in Macedonian School Students



Albanian primary school students
2006/2007: 78,467 = 34,3% share of the total
2007/2008: 75,141 = 34,0%
2008/2009: 72,570 = 33,7%
2009/2010: 69,922 = 33,4%
2010/2011: 66,156 = 32,7%
2011/2012: 65,085 = 32,8%
2012/2013: 63,483 = 32,7%
2013/2014: 62,188 = 32,6%
2014/2015: 62,012 = 32.9%
2015/2016: 60,127 = 32.4%
2016/2017: 60,971 = 32.0%

22.2% Decrease in Albanian School Students



So what this tells us is that since the Albanian demographic has fallen 8% faster than the Macedonian studetn population. Also the Albanian demographic is a younger demographic on average so the only reason they have had such a drop in school students is due to emigration. For the Macedonians its due to lower birth rates more than emigration as Macedonians emigrate less than the Albanians do.

So this means that around 1750 Albanian students per year emigrate if you divide the number of students lost over a 10 year period. The best part about this is that since it is a young child emigrating that means that for each child approximately one mother and one father emigrate as well.

So just looking at these numbers this means that anywhere from 3-5000 Albanians emigrate from Macedonia per year which is a huge loss to their VITAL capacity in the country. These kids will never give birth to another Albanian in the country. Another good thing is when they want to get married - they usually go back to Macedonia and find an Albanian bride/groom and make them emigrate as well.

Also the Macedonian state statistical office has kept track of the Albanian school students since 1966. Here is the list.

Albanian Primary/Lower Secondary School students since 1966

1966 41426
1967 43735
1968 47372
1969 50347
1970 53020
1971 54801
1972 59047
1973 63170
1974 64919
1975 67817
1976 69963
1977 71521
1978 73718
1979 74402
1980 75676
1981 75371
1982 76218
1983 76340
1984 76297
1985 76533
1986 76210
1987 75221
1988 74425
1989 72651
1990 72121
1991 69950
1992 69952
1993 70320
1994 71490
1995 72142
1996 73352
1997 74122
1998 76090
2000 75571
2001 76087
2002 75543
2003 75015
2004 74200
2005 79428

So if today there are 60971 Albanian speaking students in Macedonian primary and lower secondary schools that means that the Albanian student population in the country has collapsed to the same levels as 1972/73!!!!!!
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mklion,

Do you have employment/unemployment stats based on region and ethnicity?
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Old 06-19-2018, 05:54 AM   #10
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I just posted the numbers..

I didn't assume anything about future demographic trends..
The state statistical office has a minimal amount of Albanians working in it.. its always been an institution that has been protected my the Macedonians since it was created..

Albanians have never belived the figures given 100%
As for me.. I'm not sure..
As for migration numbers.. this is where it will be interesting in the upcoming census..
Mass migration had occurred not only in the Albanian community (as has been the trend for decades)
But now many Macedonian majority towns and villages have been drained of youth.. ask anyone who lives in MK or has been recently...

Its a dangerous trend not only for MK but for the region.. the Balkans I belive will be a new home fom many skilled educated Asian and African migrants in 10 years..if migration trends continue across all ethnic groups ..
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