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Old 02-24-2020, 07:10 AM   #21
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Gocka, the problem is that once upon a time, real men put their hand up, men of means, character and gumption. The corrupt cesspool that is Macedonian politics made sure such men of integrity didn't get anywhere near positions of power. My dad and uncle were two such blokes. Both spent time in jail for non-existent crimes and had their very sizeable contributions to further the cause seized by unscrupulous cocksuckers within the Macedonian legal system as the proceeds of crime.

They both provided sizeable financial contributions to the construction of the various churches in Australia during the late 1990's and early 2000's, only to have their contributions go "missing"; so much so dad hired a forensic accountant to find where the money went.

Gi prosti gospod dvata... men like my dad and uncle are still out there, but aren't stupid enough to get their fingerprints on the Macedonian train wreck.

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Old 06-30-2020, 03:27 AM   #22
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Have a look at what this character says between 9:55 and 11:55 on this clip with Eftov:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Ds8pcTyI4

His main issues with the treacherous Prespa agreement appear to be the amendments to the constitution and the use of "North Macedonia" for internal purposes. He keeps suggesting that the U.S. never forced or expected Macedonia to change its name internally or to include the "north" prefix in the constitution. He then goes on to say, "jas samo kazuvam deka ova e nasa makedonska glupost, nie mozevme...", then he stops himself and changes direction by saying that until June nobody was talking about changing the name for internal purposes. If you watch that segment of the clip, it was almost as if he was preparing to say "......nie mozevme da napravime dogovor, no i mozevme da go cuvame imeto za vnatresna potreba". Freudian slip? Perhaps I am wrong. Anyway, in addition, he also refers to using an erga omnes name within the framework of the UN. Cast your minds back to the speech of former president Ivanov from June 2018:
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I told them that this harmful agreement means abandonment of the already built substantive state positions, which were confirmed at the last two leaders' meetings. These are: non-alteration of the Constitution and non-acceptance of a name for overall use, or erga omnes.
Both of them use erga omnes differently and engage in riddles yet they ultimately mean the same thing. They would have accepted North Macedonia for international use so long as they could continue to use the "constitutional" name in the esoteric domain they call Macedonia. Call yourselves Gjorgje and Ljupco inside your homes, step outside and the rest of the world will call you morons. Great idea.
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Old 06-30-2020, 06:53 AM   #23
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Apparently, the betrayal seems to be, not the name change itself, but the fact that the Prespa Agreement obliges Macedonia to use the new name internally as well. Never mind what the rest of the world calls us but it's "crossing the red line" and too much of an insult for our fiercely patriotic souls to have to refer to ourselves by another name in our own homes....What a bunch of cuckolds - the lot of them.
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