New Macedonian Political Party- Integra

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  • VMRO
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1464

    #16
    Originally posted by Dove View Post
    VMRO why do you believe seeking support from the diaspora is wasting time?
    Yes i do, considering we only have couple of hundred voters registered during the last election.

    We won't be able to get an diaspora MP elected as they have increased the quota to 6000 votes.

    Integra should be on the ground in Macedonia as the diaspora is pretty much shut out in Macedonia.

    The only thing the diaspora can do is create problems when the severna twats are in their neck of the woods.
    Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.

    Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.

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    • Liberator of Makedonija
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 1597

      #17
      Just seen that Ristovski met with a governor in Gabon.....not really sure how that is meant to assist with anything occuring in Macedonia right now.
      I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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      • Momce Makedonce
        Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 562

        #18
        Integra on Macedonian TV in regard to the upcoming elections

        Лидерот на ИНТЕГРА во Утрински брифинг на Слободна ТВ...интервју со моќна порака.
        "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task." Goce Delcev

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        • kompir
          Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 537

          #19
          Another POS wanting their turn at the trough. I too was at the Melbourne meeting and VMRO is on the money, it was a shambles.
          Доста бе Вегето една, во секоја манџа се мешаш

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          • Gocka
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 2306

            #20
            Macedonians aren't natural leaders. All the Macedonians I know in my personal life are huge talkers, but avoid taking responsibility for anything like the plague. What we need are political leaders, while the only people who get into politics are the ones who just want to line their own pockets.

            I've never met a Macedonian who has said "you what I think the system sucks, I think our leaders suck, I'm going to run for office to make a difference." It starts with that type of mentality. Granted you don't just run for President or Prime minster out of the blue. But you can run for some local positions, maybe mayor, you work your way up through parliament. Its a life long commitment that is usually thankless.

            Macedonians just don't think nor live in that kind of way. Its a country with no leaders and I'm not just talking about political leaders. We have no religious leaders, community leaders, philanthropic leaders, not even socialite leaders. So only the handful of criminals who stick their necks out to obtain office actually come to power.

            A real man takes charge, takes responsibility, takes the burden on his own shoulders and if he fails, he admits it and he takes the consequences like a man. We have no men, just grown mama's boys.

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            • kompir
              Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 537

              #21
              Gocka, the problem is that once upon a time, real men put their hand up, men of means, character and gumption. The corrupt cesspool that is Macedonian politics made sure such men of integrity didn't get anywhere near positions of power. My dad and uncle were two such blokes. Both spent time in jail for non-existent crimes and had their very sizeable contributions to further the cause seized by unscrupulous cocksuckers within the Macedonian legal system as the proceeds of crime.

              They both provided sizeable financial contributions to the construction of the various churches in Australia during the late 1990's and early 2000's, only to have their contributions go "missing"; so much so dad hired a forensic accountant to find where the money went.

              Gi prosti gospod dvata... men like my dad and uncle are still out there, but aren't stupid enough to get their fingerprints on the Macedonian train wreck.
              Last edited by kompir; 02-24-2020, 07:13 AM.
              Доста бе Вегето една, во секоја манџа се мешаш

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              • Soldier of Macedon
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 13675

                #22
                Have a look at what this character says between 9:55 and 11:55 on this clip with Eftov:



                His main issues with the treacherous Prespa agreement appear to be the amendments to the constitution and the use of "North Macedonia" for internal purposes. He keeps suggesting that the U.S. never forced or expected Macedonia to change its name internally or to include the "north" prefix in the constitution. He then goes on to say, "jas samo kazuvam deka ova e nasa makedonska glupost, nie mozevme...", then he stops himself and changes direction by saying that until June nobody was talking about changing the name for internal purposes. If you watch that segment of the clip, it was almost as if he was preparing to say "......nie mozevme da napravime dogovor, no i mozevme da go cuvame imeto za vnatresna potreba". Freudian slip? Perhaps I am wrong. Anyway, in addition, he also refers to using an erga omnes name within the framework of the UN. Cast your minds back to the speech of former president Ivanov from June 2018:
                I told them that this harmful agreement means abandonment of the already built substantive state positions, which were confirmed at the last two leaders' meetings. These are: non-alteration of the Constitution and non-acceptance of a name for overall use, or erga omnes.
                Both of them use erga omnes differently and engage in riddles yet they ultimately mean the same thing. They would have accepted North Macedonia for international use so long as they could continue to use the "constitutional" name in the esoteric domain they call Macedonia. Call yourselves Gjorgje and Ljupco inside your homes, step outside and the rest of the world will call you morons. Great idea.
                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                • Karposh
                  Member
                  • Aug 2015
                  • 863

                  #23
                  Apparently, the betrayal seems to be, not the name change itself, but the fact that the Prespa Agreement obliges Macedonia to use the new name internally as well. Never mind what the rest of the world calls us but it's "crossing the red line" and too much of an insult for our fiercely patriotic souls to have to refer to ourselves by another name in our own homes....What a bunch of cuckolds - the lot of them.

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