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![]() and what are you trying with this?
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Well we feel the same when you add an "a" to Macedonian place names.
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You know what mate, despite your indoctrinated views that can at times resemble the more extreme elements in Albanian society, I still don't find myself hating you. As a matter of fact, I don't think you're a bad fellow at all by nature, but you have to take off the glasses and look harder at the facts and circumstances throughout history, and be more critical of your own history. It's a healthy process. Personally, I don't deny that there may possibly be Paleo-Balkan elements in your genes, culture and language, I just don't agree with the percentages proposed by some people. However, I do believe there are significant elements in your culture and language that are not Paleo-Balkan at all, and possibly originate from somewhere in the Caucasus, Middle East or North Africa. I am not being specific because I am still researching the matter, but there is no way that any person can logically accept that everything significant in the Albanian language and culture has Paleo-Balkan, let alone Illyrian origins. Where it concerns the genes, I haven't looked into it in much detail, but from what I have briefly gathered it appears that most of the Balkan peoples have enough 'local' DNA to confirm a genetical heritage to the people before them. Change some of your views or come to terms with the reality of other views, you're in a Macedonian house, I can assure you respect so long as you're prepared to give it back, but you know exactly what the issues and sensitivities between our peoples are so always have that in consideration when you're here. Don't be suprised at hostility if you fail to adhere to my good advice. Otherwise, I notice you share a passion for ancient and medieval history, if we work together we can probably make some good discoveries and conclusions, I don't work with an anti-Albanian agenda, so I am more than happy to explore your origins and language further and would be pleased if you could assist. Why do you think I responded to each of your PM's when you requested source material on certain subjects? There is certain information that you are able to reach easier, and there is information that I can reach easier. The reason no progress is made in the Balkans is because every so-called historian, linguist or other nationalistic academic, when in the knowledge of something potentially useful for one of their neighbours, holds their cards to their chests. I am trying to counter that sort of attitude by helping you when you asked for it. It's up to you, you can either have some dignity and respect, or you can slowly but surely disintegrate into a spiteful member, which will ultimately lead to your departure. I don't want to see that, I think there is a chance for you to change some of your perceptions. And with Macedonians and Albanians working together on historical and linguistic matters in good will, objective, open to mutual criticism, agreeing to disagree on difficult points, etc, much progress can be made. Think about it.
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![]() I like Vasil Kanchov, i think he dressed a pretty accurate picture of all the ethnicities in Macedonia, even if he called us bulgarian (wich he admitted that we call themselves Macedonians). We are a uncontested majority since the ancient times
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Any chance of posting Kanchov's population (ethnographic) statistics on Macedonia that also includes the "Albanians" (Arnauti)? I am pretty sure they were published in English in one of the "Macedonian Review" issues from the 1980s or late 1970s. |
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![]() If you can read and understand bulgarian there are some of his works on wikipedia.
What you asked for statistics for all ethnic Macedonia is given on this link http://www.promacedonia.org/vk/vk_2_b.htm the last table is ethnic census of all Macedonia. Up on the page is the population given by vilaet-s and kaza-s the turkish administrative division ![]() These are the numbers for the Macedonians, Albanians, Turks and Greeks. macedonians ("bulgarians") 1,181,336 (1,032,533 christian, 148,803 macedonian muslim) albanians (arnauts) 128,711 ( 9,510 christian, 119,201 ) turks 499,204 greeks 228,702 I can see from this table that Macedonian Muslims were more than Albanians in 1900. |
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