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Petros Houhoulis 09-06-2008 01:13 AM

[QUOTE=fatso;591]Greece's tactics in friendly assimilation have been one Turkey is following. Greeks from the south get drafted and do their service on the islands or up north. Greek's or Mak's from the north do their service in the south.

The use of Golden Dawn and other anarchy or neo nazi groups are protected by the government. American reporters exposed a link between November 17th and the PASOK party a few years before the Olympics.

Greece is a new Democratic country with an uncut Ambilicol cord from previous Balkan regimes.[/QUOTE]

The Greek army has changed considerably. Greek mommies who protest that their siblings are being harassed by the Greek army have imposed the exact opposite of what you suggest. The Greek army is trying to send the soldiers as close as possible to their homes (which is usually impossible since half the army is in the borders with Turkey and another 1/4 in the northern frontiers)

The link between ultra-right wing organizations and the Greek police has some basis, but it is more likely the result of the close relationship that they used to have during the junta and other black moments in Greek history, and it is only between certain die-hard members of the Greek police rather than the entire police force.

The link between PASOK and 17N is an outright slander. In effect, a PASOK government under Chrysochoidis as minister of interior captured the 17N (albeit more because of its' own mistakes, but also as a result of intensive surveillance)

Risto the Great 09-06-2008 01:15 AM

[QUOTE=toothpaste;559]It's stupid for anyone to claim ethnic purity in the Balcans..
that goes for both Greeks and Macedonians.[/QUOTE]
I agree.
More stupid is to claim pure Greekness and (as a consequence) claim to be Macedonian. :confused:

Areianos 09-06-2008 01:22 AM

Well we modern Greeks did not write history and Peloponesos was populated mainly by Dorians that migrated from Macedonia to Peloponesos. They were Greek speakers and founders of Linear B.

Besides when the royal houses were waging war amongst each other in southern Greece, Macedonian royalty invited the war refugees from Corinth, Argolis & Sparta to settle in Macedonia as it had vast land (according to Thucydides).

Perhaps it was these war refugees from Corinth, Argolis and Sparta that sent Macedonia to the stratosphere under the reign of Philip.

Risto the Great 09-06-2008 01:26 AM

Sorry, I wasn't there 2000 years ago.
I hear there was less arsenic in the water back then though.

Can I help you with something?

Areianos 09-06-2008 01:34 AM

We are all in this together are we not?

Who knows Risto, you may in fact be a part of us.

Daskalot 09-06-2008 01:36 AM

[QUOTE=Areianos;724]Well we modern Greeks did not write history and Peloponesos was populated mainly by Dorians that migrated from Macedonia to Peloponesos. They were Greek speakers and founders of Linear B.

Besides when the royal houses were waging war amongst each other in southern Greece, Macedonian royalty invited the war refugees from Corinth, Argolis & Sparta to settle in Macedonia as it had vast land (according to Thucydides).

Perhaps it was these war refugees from Corinth, Argolis and Sparta that sent Macedonia to the stratosphere under the reign of Philip.[/QUOTE]

Sir havent you missed out on a millenia or two now, what happened in between....

Daskalot 09-06-2008 01:38 AM

[QUOTE=Areianos;744]We are all in this together are we not?

Who knows Risto, you may in fact be a part of us.[/QUOTE]

part of us??? It is more likely that you are a part of the Slavic world....

Areianos 09-06-2008 01:40 AM

Yes we had Roman refugees when the Roman capitals changed, then we had the germanic Goths, then we had the Bulgars, then we had the Slavs, we had settlers from the Vangarian Guard, we had settlers from Spanish Aargon knights, we had settlers from French knights, we had Venetian & Genoan traders settle there and then Turks and lastly Spanish jews.

...and we are stil here.

Areianos 09-06-2008 01:42 AM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;751]part of us??? It is more likely that you are a part of the Slavic world....[/QUOTE]

No disputing that at all but we are talking about perhaps 7% according to genetic studies. The same would be true on your side as well.

Risto the Great 09-06-2008 01:43 AM

[QUOTE=Areianos;744]We are all in this together are we not?

Who knows Risto, you may in fact be a part of us.[/QUOTE]
Actually you are 100% correct.
I am the Macedonian part that evolved from the pool of Hellenes.
I suspect you are the Greek part.


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