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Daskalot 09-06-2008 02:33 AM

[QUOTE=Areianos;820]No denying 500,000 Eastern Greeks and others settled in Macedonia.
in 1925 the census in Macedonia read 1.3 million Greeks.[/QUOTE]

Good, a transplanted Greekness in Macedonia which had never been present until then.

Areianos 09-06-2008 02:34 AM

I understand your point, Greeks still called themseles Ellines and their language Ellinika.

Latin speaking Greeks, not Vlachs called themselves Graekoi.

Daskalot 09-06-2008 02:35 AM

[QUOTE=Areianos;811]Greeks in Macedonia before the arrival of refugees was 850,000.[/QUOTE]

According to who's statistics?

Areianos 09-06-2008 02:35 AM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;822]Good, a transplanted Greekness in Macedonia which had never been present until then.[/QUOTE]

Oh dear.

Ok 1.3 million Greeks minus 500.000 Greeks = 850.000 Greeks

There were 850.000 Greeks in Macedonia BEFORE the arrival of Eastern Greeks.

toothpaste 09-06-2008 02:36 AM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;819]Friedman and Danforth for starters.

Yes there was a MASSIVE Greek migration in the 1920s, see this map:
[B][URL="http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa260/Piperkata/mapofgreecerefugeesettlements-1926.jpg"]CLICK HERE[/URL][/B][/QUOTE]

yeah yeah yeah...failed to answer.:)
again,
was there a massive migration from southern to northern Greece ever mentioned?(as the SLAVIC migrations)
this would explain the existence of Greek speaking population in Macedonia.
otherwise.....the existed there before..isnt ?:)

Areianos 09-06-2008 02:36 AM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;824]According to who's statistics?[/QUOTE]

League of Nations in 1925.

Daskalot 09-06-2008 02:37 AM

[QUOTE=Areianos;823]I understand your point, Greeks still called themseles Ellines and their language Ellinika.

Latin speaking Greeks, not Vlachs called themselves Graekoi.[/QUOTE]

So you are telling me that you have always reffered to yourselves as Ellines speaking Ellinika, and that Vlachs are really Latin speaking Greeks, do all Vlachs consider themselves to be this or are the ones in Greece saying this?

Daskalot 09-06-2008 02:39 AM

[QUOTE=Areianos;825]Oh dear.

Ok 1.3 million Greeks minus 500.000 Greeks = 850.000 Greeks

There were 850.000 Greeks in Macedonia BEFORE the arrival of Eastern Greeks.[/QUOTE]

Do you know what criteria the Hellenic state set to be counted as a Greek? Which was the only criteria you needed to fulfill?

Areianos 09-06-2008 02:39 AM

Probably not always, probably had a village identifier I don't really know. My grand mother says she is a Makedonissa and doesn't know a word of your language.

Areianos 09-06-2008 02:40 AM

[QUOTE=Daskalot;829]Do you know what criteria the Hellenic state set to be counted as a Greek? Which was the only criteria you needed to fulfill?[/QUOTE]

Well the criteria is set out in the Treaty of Bucharest and Treaty of Neuilly.


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