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  • Dimko-piperkata
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1876

    Albanians in "warning" over name dispute

    14 June 2009 | 16:52 | Source: B92
    SKOPJE -- Macedonia's ethnic Albanians have issued an open warning to the government in Skopje that their "patience in wearing thin" over the name dispute.

    Macedonia has been involved in the dispute over its constitutional name with neighboring Greece for the past 17 years.

    The Albanian political representatives have now set the end of 2009 as the deadline for this issue to be solved. Otherwise, our reporter in Skopje says, they will "seek alternatives as their manner of solving the problem".

    This position is supported by the ruling VMRO-DPMNE coalition partner, the Democratic Union of Albanians (DUI).

    "It is clear that without resolving the name dispute, Macedonia cannot join NATO. On the other hand, the priority of our political platform is the country's integration into the Euro-Atlantic structures," DUI's Rafit Aliti was quoted as saying.

    Macedonia's Albanians, who have for years stood back from the name issue, are suddenly showing great interest in the problem after Albania joined NATO several months back.

    This western neighbor of Macedonia, for years a symbol of a low standard of living and international isolation, has undergone visible positive changes in just a year, says New Democracy leader Imer Selmani.

    "Albania, unlike us, has seen economic and social flourishing. The Albanian population in Macedonia is a witness to that. The long wait due to the name dispute is having a depressing influence, because hopelessness around us is ever more obvious," he was quoted.

    But, the country's ethnic Albanians would not divulge what they intend to do unless there is a quick solution to the problem.

    On the other hand, political analysts categorically claim that going for any kind of radical measures would not suit Albanians in the present situation.

    They are interested in Macedonia's fast-track NATO accession only in order to achieve their final goal – the unification of all Albanians, says political expert and former Macedonian FM Slobodan Chashule.

    "Macedonia's partition is not at the core of their strategy. They, in fact, want it whole, and as the third Albanian state in the Balkans. With the help of Macedonia, Albania and Kosovo, they would have the privilege of securing five Euro-commissioners in the EU. The privileges that they would gain in this way are possible only in Macedonia's entry into the Euro-Atlantic integrations is secured," he said.

    Meanwhile, VMRO-DPMNE would not comment on the warnings coming from the ethnic Albanian political bloc.

    At the same time, analysts say that the ruling party's hard-line approach to the name issue is "weakening".

    A new round of talks with official Athens has been scheduled for after the Greek elections, at the end of June, in Geneva.

    The negotiators from the two countries, joined by a UN mediator, will then travel to Skopje.


    guys...a war is coming up again
    1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
    2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...
  • The LION will ROAR
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 3231

    #2
    Their goal is to join their Albanian brothers, open borders...we all know their real attentions..?
    Macedonia will be better off not to join EU..let the Albanians leave...
    If a civil war breaks out again...Macedonia should send a very strong message to them..
    The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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    • Napoleon
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 98

      #3
      The long wait due to the name dispute is having a depressing influence, because hopelessness around us is ever more obvious
      This is great, as I've always said, the only way to settle Macedonia's Albanian problem is to give them incentives to migrate and keeping them in poverty is the key.

      Besides, the only 'name issue' the Albanians should be concerned with is their use of 'Illyrian' with the peoples who have more of a claim to Illyria then themselves.

      Indigenous Peoples in Albania

      Illyrian 30%
      Slav 20%
      Thracians 18%
      Phoenician 16%
      Hellenic People 14%
      Vikings 2%

      Indigenous Peoples in Bosnia-Herzegovina

      Illyrian 40%
      Teuton 20%
      Celtic 15%
      Slav 15%
      Hunnians 6%
      Thracians 4%


      Indigenous Peoples in Croatia

      Illyrian 34%
      Slav 20%
      Celtic 18%
      Teuton 12%
      Phoenician 8%
      Hellenic People 8%

      From https://www.igenea.com/index.php?content=49a&id=40
      Last edited by Napoleon; 06-15-2009, 05:52 PM.

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      • Daskalot
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 4345

        #4
        Originally posted by Napoleon View Post
        This is great, as I've always said, the only way to settle Macedonia's Albanian problem is to give them incentives to migrate and keeping them in poverty is the key.

        Besides, the only 'name issue' the Albanians should be concerned with is their use of 'Illyrian' with the peoples who have more of a claim to Illyria then themselves.

        Indigenous Peoples in Albania

        Illyrian 30%
        Slav 20%
        Thracians 18%
        Phoenician 16%
        Hellenic People 14%
        Vikings 2%

        Indigenous Peoples in Bosnia-Herzegovina

        Illyrian 40%
        Teuton 20%
        Celtic 15%
        Slav 15%
        Hunnians 6%
        Thracians 4%


        Indigenous Peoples in Croatia

        Illyrian 34%
        Slav 20%
        Celtic 18%
        Teuton 12%
        Phoenician 8%
        Hellenic People 8%

        From https://www.igenea.com/index.php?content=49a&id=40
        Hard facts, but it is like telling a deaf man that he is deaf... he will never hear you.....
        Macedonian Truth Organisation

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15658

          #5
          This is the talk of terrorists.
          A firm response should be issued by the Republic making it clear that rushing anything in relation to a compromise in the name of our country is not in the interests of Macedonians and/or those who live in it. Anyone who makes threats otherwise is an enemy of the State.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Daskalot
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 4345

            #6
            Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
            This is the talk of terrorists.
            A firm response should be issued by the Republic making it clear that rushing anything in relation to a compromise in the name of our country is not in the interests of Macedonians and/or those who live in it. Anyone who makes threats otherwise is an enemy of the State.
            That is a correct course of action.
            Macedonian Truth Organisation

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            • Napoleon
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 98

              #7
              This has got me thinking that there must be something going on behind the scenes on the diplomatic front (probably in our favour) as the Albanian dogs bark and attempt to apply pressure only when their Greek masters tell them to. Remember their threats prior to the nato vote.

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                #8
                Or alternatively the Albanians are getting pumped with bravado because they are getting assurances from elsewhere. Like they did in 2001.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • Venom
                  Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 445

                  #9
                  Definitely the case Risto. From down south no doubt.
                  S m r t - i l i - S l o b o d a

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