The role of the Kosovar Albanian riots in December 2008 in Greece

[Bratot]

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=pl&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.greekamericannewsagency.com%2Fgana%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D5315%26Itemid%3D83&sl=el&tl=en

[Risto the Great]

You have posted the wrong link I think.

[Bratot]

It's not the wrong link

[Risto the Great]

Sorry, it was the correct link ... but my eyes glazed over reading the translated babble.
Do you believe the Americans had anything to do with it?
Sounds utterly far fetched to me.

[Bratot]

Of course Risto, only Americans are capable of such scenarios with a long practice behind them.

Opposing the USA interests will cost a lot the Greeks. In my opinion this is only a intro in what CIA is preparing.

We already talked about the ethno-cultural disolution of Greece, Albanian-Cemerians, Macedonians and Turks will be the carriers of that plan.

[Rogi]

It wouldn't make sense for the Americans to want the current Greek Government out, because the alternatives hold stronger anti-Turkish views and will not be as willing to negotiate on issues such as that of Northern Cyprus - and that goes against US interests (by going against Turkish interests).

[Bratot]

There are many reasons for that, one of them is Russia.

While ago Greece bought weapons from Moscow, plus the Russians are planning the pipeline to go through Greece which does not make the Americans happy about.

[Pelister]

It wouldn't make sense for the Americans to want the current Greek Government out, because the alternatives hold stronger anti-Turkish views and will not be as willing to negotiate on issues such as that of Northern Cyprus - and that goes against US interests (by going against Turkish interests).

It would if the Americans had an Albanian, or even a Macedonian agenda.

It could be a way to discredit Greece, and put more pressure on the structure of the E.U organization. The E.U has structural problems. There is a growing anti-Greek movement in the E.U, particularly from some of the larger member states.

[Risto the Great]

It would if the Americans had an Albanian, or even a Macedonian agenda.

It could be a way to discredit Greece, and put more pressure on the structure of the E.U organization. The E.U has structural problems. There is a growing anti-Greek movement in the E.U, particularly from some of the larger member states.

I am not sure if it is an anti-Greek view or in fact the negative sentiment is aimed at the member nations that are economic leeches (like Greece). I think this is more the case. Greece is just another drain on Germany, France, Italy and the UK.

[Pelister]

I am not sure if it is an anti-Greek view or in fact the negative sentiment is aimed at the member nations that are economic leeches (like Greece). I think this is more the case. Greece is just another drain on Germany, France, Italy and the UK.

That would be a more accurate statement. The other thing troubling some larger members of the E.U is the whole "equal vote" scenario in the E.U. It makes E.U foreign policy a very difficult thing to formulate and manage. It doesn't like the fact that it can be hostage to the interests of an individual state, and apart from being a net-liability, Greeces irrational behaviour in relation to its neighbours is causing the E.U other headaches. The rotating presidency only brings this problem to the fore.

It would benefit the Macedonians greatly if they invited Xavier Solana to talk directly to the Macedonians (to by pass) the issues Greece has with everyone in the region - and try and get some support for our Macedonian style democracy. Believe it or not, it would actually empower the E.U ! The Macedonians don't realize that the E.U has serious structural problems, but it can help itself, by also involving the E.U, and sidelining Greece.

[Magedon]

Of course Risto, only Americans are capable of such scenarios with a long practice behind them.

Opposing the USA interests will cost a lot the Greeks. In my opinion this is only a intro in what CIA is preparing.

We already talked about the ethno-cultural disolution of Greece, Albanian-Cemerians, Macedonians and Turks will be the carriers of that plan.

I do believe that really such a plan is set in motion. For everyone to be happy...

[Pelister]

I do believe that really such a plan is set in motion. For everyone to be happy...

I think that Macedonian democracy is the only genuine democracy in the region, and slowly but surely the powers that be are beginning to recognize this fact.

It has to be about more than just natural resources, right?

[Risto the Great]

Greeks want to believe it was some "filthy Albanians" spoiling the Hellenic dream.
Sorry, I don't buy it.
It was some pissed off Greeks ... and they are multiplying.