Who are the Phanariots?

[Carlin]

There is evidence about some of the few members of that family being of various ethnic origins. But most? Not that it bothers me at all. It would be very interesting to find out if they were though just Orthodox Christians, considering they claimed to be fully hellenic.

Which families are you referring to?

(I'm not questioning anyone claiming full hellenic descent. Those claims are there - we also do know that many educated people/merchants in the Balkans but also ordinary people who spoke Albanian, Vlach or other languages natively also claimed to be fully hellenic in the 19th century, and later...)

[tchaiku]

There is evidence about some of the few members of that family being of various ethnic origins. But most? Not that it bothers me at all. It would be very interesting to find out if they were though just Orthodox Christians, considering they claimed to be fully hellenic.

[Carlin]

^ How do they know this?

One would assume it's based on data & evidence (but also on analysis/analogies).

[tchaiku]

^ How do they know this?

[Carlin]

URL:

https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/bitstream/1807/67271/3/Gundogdu_Birol_201211_PhD_thesis.pdf

[Liberator of Makedonija]

Absolutely fascinating to say the least

[Carlin]

[Liberator of Makedonija]

Hahahaha should come as no surprise

[Carlin]

A History of the Roumanians by R.W. Seton-Watson page 127

[TrueMacedonian]

A group of wealthy merchant families that resided in Istanbul and weilded much political power during the Ottoman era. At least to my knowledge, very facinating topic.

Indeed it is. Bump.

[Liberator of Makedonija]

A group of wealthy merchant families that resided in Istanbul and weilded much political power during the Ottoman era. At least to my knowledge, very facinating topic.

[Carlin]

Bump ..............

[TrueMacedonian]

[Soldier of Macedon]

Yeah, that's where the 4,000 years of bullshit comes from, meanwhile most of them don't have a 100 years in Greek-occupied Macedonia.

[osiris]

everybody in greece has a famous ancient pedigree som, many much older then 3 century ad when constantine founded new rome on whenever the varangian guard was formed by slavs and vikings, hell dont the greeks according to their claims go back to 2ooo bc lol.