Will one of you useless Greek apologists ever answer the question?

[Risto the Great]

http://macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?t=509

It appears Greeks knew the difference between Macedonians and Greeks back 100 years ago. You modern versions don't appear to know. What happened in the Greek mind meld that caused this amnesia?

Will any of you even attempt to answer this?

[osiris]

dont hold your breath risto, whatever doesnt suit their claim to macedonia will be ignored and ridiculed. i am sick of it mate, how a nation can still despite all the evidence believe their bullshit.
greeks pretenders and theives of many leagacies including their beloved hellenes.

[Oxi]

Αυτή είναι η επίσημη δημόσια προκήρυξη του ελληνομακεδονικού κομιτάτου το 1905. Bρίσκεται στα αρχεία του Ιδρύματος Μελετών Χερσονήσου του Αίμου. (2)
Δεν γνωρίζω το περιεχόμενό της. Πιθανότατα πρόκειται για ένα ακόμη προπαγανδιστικό παραμυθάκι των Ελλήνων Κομιταζήδων με σκοπό να καλοπιάσουν τους Μακεδόνες το 1905.

Απευθύνετε προφανώς... στους Μακεδόνες και γιαυτό το λόγο είναι γραμμένη στη μακεδονική γλώσσα έστω με χρήση του ελληνικού αλφαβήτου.

From the source link that is posted with the article http://makibe.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post_21.html talks about the article being a "propaganda mythical piece" from the Greek Komitadji. It is written in a "Makedonski" dialect using Greek letters with the intent of gaining favour with the Greek Macedonians in 1905.

I hope this translation clears up some of your confusion.

[osiris]

the only confused ones are the neo greeks oxi, the ones who discarded their native cultures to adopt a fabricated identity, people like you actually.

[Soldier of Macedon]

From the source link that is posted with the article http://makibe.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post_21.html talks about the article being a "propaganda mythical piece" from the Greek Komitadji. It is written in a "Makedonski" dialect using Greek letters with the intent of gaining favour with the Greek Macedonians in 1905.

I hope this translation clears up some of your confusion.

Oxi, have you posted here previously by another username prior to being banned for being a racist or something alike? Royal Hellas, perhaps?

Makedonski = Macedonian. It was written in the Macedonian language, why are they 'Greek Macedonians' in 1905 when there was no Greek state in existence and these people, as the document sent by the Greeks is in full agreement, are called Macedonians, not 'Greeks' or 'Greek Macedonians'? What makes them 'Greek' anything, because the 'Greeks' were trying to assimilate them by showing recognition of their name? I think you are confused, in a major way judging by your giant leap of assumptions.

The letter sent by those 'Greeks' was intended for MY PEOPLE, MACEDONIANS, WHO SPEAK THE MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE, if Greeks could accept calling the Macedonians and their language by the real Macedonian name in 1905, what's the problem with you lot in 2008?

That is the point of this thread, answer those questions and address your own delusions.

[Oxi]

I have posted the translation. The author calls it a propaganda mythical piece from the Greek Komitadji to win favour over the Greek Macedonians.
I assume the term Greek Macedonians was used by the author to provide some clarity.
The Greeks in the article are described as Komitadji. They were rallying support for their political agenda. The believers would have been like minded whether they were Greeks, Bulgars, Slavs or Macedonians etc.

Where in the article do you get the idea that the Greeks reffered to your kind as Macedonian?

Your "no Greek state in 1905" comment is also interesting. In your researched opinion, when did the Greek state appear?

[Soldier of Macedon]

I should clarify, in 1905 Macedonia was not yet occupied, the Greek state and borders didn't exist in Macedonia, so how could these people be classified 'Greek Macedonians'? These people were just Macedonians, this term you have coined is not even mentioned by the person you are making reference to. He says that this document is perhaps another 'mythical propaganda' by the Greeks to appeal to the Macedonians, he does not say "Greek Macedonian", so do not create blatant lies to support your weak theory.

Where in the article do you get the idea that the Greeks reffered to your kind as Macedonian?

Well let me see, they are using my language, they are sending it to people in Macedonia who speak my language and call themselves Macedonian, and they are calling the people they are sending it to Macedonians.

Still confused? I bet you are, it's better that way for you, because you can't be roped in to admitting the obvious truth which is slapping you in the face. It's like a defendant claiming temporary insanity everytime it suits him, quite a deluded characteristic actually.

Should I assume by your dodging that you are Royal Hellas or not? Don't avoid the same question again, you wont be banned if you come clean, but if you lie then you are out, and know that as administrators we can compare certain details to determine whether or not you are the same person. So, I want to hear it from you, is this the case?

[Oxi]

The article talks about the Komitadji and propaganda. Its obvious your skill of the Greek written language must be limited as you cannot comprehend what has been written.

The article is pro Greek and illustrates how certain Macedonian and Greek Macedonian terms were used to promote the Komitadji point of view.

I will claim diplomatic immunity with regards to my relationship to Royal Hellas.

[Soldier of Macedon]

The article talks about the Komitadji and propaganda. Its obvious your skill of the Greek written language must be limited as you cannot comprehend what has been written.

The article is pro Greek and illustrates how certain Macedonian and Greek Macedonian terms were used to promote the Komitadji point of view.

The article is pro Greek? Are you on drugs mate? You are already pushing you luck with your blatant lies. Pull up, now.

This is what it says:

Πιθανότατα πρόκειται για ένα ακόμη προπαγανδιστικό παραμυθάκι των Ελλήνων Κομιταζήδων με σκοπό να καλοπιάσουν τους Μακεδόνες το 1905.

Rough translation:

Perhaps this is another mythical propaganda piece from the Greek Komitadji to appeal to the Macedonians in 1905.

My understanding of Greek is fine, perhaps you should check yours and then tell me where does it refer to the Macedonians as "Greek Macedonians" here? Stop making things up you nationalistic tool, wake up to reality.

I will take your plea for immunity as confirmation of your return by another username then. Don't make the same mistakes as your previous identity here, you are already on the wrong track by making misleading statements about the article under the document on that link and creating words which are not there. Don't waste our time with your attempts at throwing garbage into the picture, if you have something contructive then you are welcome, if you are here to play games and spin lies in every post, just try me.

[Oxi]

My understanding of Greek is fine, perhaps you should check yours and then tell me where does it refer to the Macedonians as "Greek Macedonians" here? Stop making things up you nationalistic tool, wake up to reality.

Three quotes for the Greek Macedonians.

Πρώτα πρώτα η ίδια η ονομασία Ελληνομακεντονσκη Κομιτέτ / Ελληνομακεδονική Επιτροπή υποδηλώνει οτι άλλο ο Μακεδόνας και άλλο ο Ελληνας. Είναι σα να λέμε Ελληνογαλλική ή Ελληνοβρετανική κλπ επιτροπή.

Είναι προφανές, επίσης, οτι το ίδιο το Ελληνομακεδονικό Κομιτάτο δεν τους θεωρεί Μακεδόνες και γι αυτό δεν απευθύνετε σε αυτους. Αλλιώς θα ήταν γραμμένη στην ελληνική γλώσσα ή έστω στα βλάχικα (ακα Μερτζος)ή έστω στα αρβανίτικα ή έστω στα... ποντιακά (καλά αυτοί ηρθάν μετά το 1922)!

Αντίστοιχα τα μέλη του ελληνομακεδονικού κομιτάτου υπήρξαν και αυτοί κομιτατζήδες οι οποίοι χέρι-χέρι με τους Βούλγαρους κομιταζήδες κατέσφαξαν τον Μακεδονικό λαό το 1900-.

Any other stupid questions SOM?

[Orovnichanec]

If you can follow the rules Oxi, then Welcome Back Oxi/Royal Hellas

[TerraNova]

Can you post the text of this proclamation?

Otherwise ,you just take a word from a text of 1905 and adjust it to your usual rhetorics and point of view 100 years later.

You must be sure for one thing-When Greeks called anybody Macedonian ,they absolutely meant he was Greek.

[osiris]

terranova are you married and are you really a woman.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Ελληνομακεδονική Επιτροπή
Ελληνομακεδονικό Κομιτάτο
ελληνομακεδονικού κομιτάτου

Oxi, the 'Greek' Macedonian Committee was based in Athens and aimed to acquire Macedonia for the Greek state, this is what your above quoted words are in reference to, a Greek Macedonian Committee and Greek Macedonian Commission. Where are the "Greek Macedonian" people that you were speaking about when you first jumped in this thread like some Hellenized Zorro? Why isn't the language called "Grkomakedonski"? The people were simply and only Macedonians, stop going in circles and making misleading statements. You said that the article is "pro Greek", what's wrong, have you changed your mind after actually taking the time to read it? That website/blog is made by Macedonians from Greece, the article is the furthest thing from "pro Greek".

Next time, think before you open your mouth after months of silence on the sidelines.

[osiris]

You must be sure for one thing-When Greeks called anybody Macedonian ,they absolutely meant he was Greek.

thats a classic terranova. you must be married but unhappily.