The institutionalized construction of the "Super-Greek" mentality!

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  • Daskalot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4345

    The institutionalized construction of the "Super-Greek" mentality!

    Here is an article by Alexander Zaharopoulos, he describes how the Greek schooling system systematically lies to its pupils.

    GREECE A LAND OF HEROES - AND DISTORTIONS

    The controversy over Macedonia owes much to the Greek mind
    set, writes ALEXANDER ZAHAROPOULOS
    ("Sydney Morning Herald", Australia, Wednesday, March 23,
    1994)

    Although the Australian media have overwhelmingly supported
    the embattled Macedonians, and although most Australians would
    do so instinctively, it is unlikely that more than a handful
    of people are able to fully comprehend the Greek position. It
    is far from trivial to say that that is because they have not
    experienced a Greek education.
    In retrospect it is clear to me that my 12 years of Greek
    schooling, mainly in the 70's, conspired to instil in me
    precisely one attitude and almost unshakeable belief in the
    purity and unity of the Greek people, language and culture (to
    which three, I would add "orthodoxy" if my parents, who once
    had to bribe a priest to allow my Anglican great-grandmother
    to baptise my brother, had not thought the religion irrelevant
    and in bad taste).
    The attitude I am referring to was taught to us at school in
    images. Each year, at the school parade to commemorate the
    uprising against "the Turk", the story was wheeled out of the
    Greek general who had killed so many infidels in a single day
    that his sword had to be prised out of his locked hand. Our
    textbooks exalted those Byzantine kings who had managed to
    keep the Eastern riff-raff out of the empire. All epochs
    contributed Great Cleansers to our list of heroes.
    Belief in the continuity of Greece against all odds was
    enabled also by a method of withholding information and
    sealing off interpretative paths. We had, as children, neither
    the capacity nor the inclination to explore disunities and
    "impurities" in the history of the Greek people, language and
    culture. The Pelloponesian War of antiquity was never more
    than a family squabble. We could not have savoured the thought
    that Sparta might have had more in common culturally with
    Persia (with which it formed alliances) than with Athens. The
    long history of the land in which we lived had been reduced
    for us to the opposition of Greek and non-Greek.
    One carried such views to maturity. Melina Mercouri (in 1981 I
    worked as assistant to her senior adviser, Vassilis
    Fotopoulos) used to tell me that the importance of the Elgin
    marbles rests in the fact that they are the heart of a body of
    Greek culture inherited from the ancient past. Until her
    recent death she believed that modern Greece, as the sole
    inheritor, had a duty to preserve the organic coherence of
    that body. When the bishop of Florina (a town just south of
    the Macedonian border) said that the very stones he stood on
    testified to their Greekness, he was, sadly, echoing the
    opening lines of a popular epic revered modern Greek poet
    Giannis Ritsos.
    It was not until I left Greece that I understood that our
    education resulted only in intellectual arrogance and moral
    poverty. I came to know of the strong African and Asiatic
    influence that operated upon early Aegean culture. I
    understand that Alexander spread eastward not Greek
    civilisation but terror and misfortune. I learnt that Salonika
    had a Jewish culture to rival Vienna's before local Greeks
    collaborated in its extermination. I was ashamed to discover
    that in the Greek provinces of Macedonian and Thrace live
    communities who in this day and age are treated as outcasts
    because Greek is not their first language. I was horrified to
    realise that for decades they had resisted policies of forced
    "hellenisation".
    Away from the country I quickly learnt not to use the words
    "gyfots" (gypsy), "vlachos" (Romanian) and "Arvanitis"
    (Albanian) for the common swear-words that they are in today's
    Greece. When the Greek Government used "Skoupa" ("broom" or
    "broomsweap") as the code name for the massive drive to remove
    destitute Albanians from Greece in 1993 I seriously considered
    changing my surname.
    Needless to say, it has not been my intention to suggest that
    the stifling, chauvinistic education we received cannot be
    overcome. Not that Greeks are presently incapable of
    accommodating difference. When the grave of Karolos Kuhn, the
    genius of the modern Greek theatre, was covered with anti-
    Semitic slogans in 1992, the Athenian press was swift to
    condemn the action. Yet even as Greeks are expunging old
    racisms, in respect of the Macedonian issue there has been
    precious little dissent from the official government line, and
    none that I have heard of among Greek Australians.
    One would like to believe that dissenters are keeping low out
    of fear. The rest must realise that the conventional method of
    perpetuating their identity as Greeks -- a method never of
    their own choosing -- has no place in a modern, tolerant,
    culturally diffuse world.

    Note: Dr Alexander Zaharopoulos left Greece after completing
    his secondary education, but returned frequently while
    studying at University College, London. He settled in
    Australia in 1992.
    Source: http://b-info.com/places/Macedonia/r...3/94-03-28.mle

    TM I took the liberty to post this great article here as well, I hope you do not mind.
    Macedonian Truth Organisation
  • Lügendetektor
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 35

    #2
    i just searched the board, but i didnt found it..so i thought it must be linked with this thread....so if somebody had allready posted it, sorry

    Greeks and Albanians in Greece by Alexis Heraclides,AIM Athens, December 7, 2000

    "Well before the upsurge of Greece ultra-nationalism, which manifested itself during the first part of the 1990s with the Greek-Macedonian dispute over "the name of Macedonia" and more recently with the hysterical fundamentalist nationalism of the Orthodox Church of Greece, nationalist sentiments were instilled in Greece by way of the most traditional and effective method: namely primary and secondary education (and in some cases even at university level). Education, as it is well known, has been used as a vehicle of political socialization, the process whereby young individuals learn to become enthusiastic patriots and loyal citizens of their country and state. The Greek educational system is of course not unique in pursuing such aims and hardly the inventor of such forms of socialization to the nation. Similar processes are more than obvious in all the countries of Southeastern Europe and beyond"

    "In the Greek case, the pupils are thought to be intolerant of other nations and ethnic groups (outside and within Greece). The Greek educational system teaches them and makes them believe that the Greeks are superior to all others; that the Greeks are the direct descendent of the illustrious ancient Greeks, who are said to be the greatest civilization of ancient times and the point of departure of Western civilization; and that the Greeks (presumably the ancient Greeks) are the creators of all major human values with an incomparable contribution to world culture. Greek students are also taught that their nation is more than 3000 years old. They do not recognize the well-known fact that nationhood is a very recent phenomenon in human history and that hardly any Greek nation or people existed in the classical ancient Greek cultural-linguistic milieu of antagonistic city-states. Again the attempt at historical depth is characteristic of most national historical narratives, but the Greek case is one of the most extreme, comparable only to the Israeli or Ethiopian cases. Furthermore it is deeply held and provides the Greeks of today with one of the most glorious myths ever conceived. It gives rise to self-esteem but also to arrogance and haughtiness towards all others. "

    "But let us focus on the Albanians and how they feature in the Greek national narrative. Throughout the 19th century with the Greek War of Independence ("Greek Revolution" as it is known in Greece) as the point of departure, the Albanian-speakers, notably the Orthodox Christian Albanian-speakers known as "Arvanites" were largely regarded as Greeks by the Greeks and Greeks-speakers, as Greeks in substance, "Greeks and Arvanites: two races, one nation" as some had put it at the time. And indeed this was to a considerable extent the self-definition of the Arvanites themselves at least in the southern part of the Balkan peninsula at a time when no sense of Albanian national self-consciousness had emerged. Albanian nationhood began in the last quarter of the 19th century in Kosovo, particularly as a reaction to the Serbian and Greek threats to those parts of the Ottoman Empire where the bulk of the Albanians lived for centuries. Prior to that the Orthodox Albanians in the Southern Balkans were among the most active and renown "Greek" guerrilla leaders on land and sea during the Greek War of Independence and with the advent of Greek independence and until today, fully assimilated and very prominent in politics, diplomacy, the army, etc. "

    Alexis Heraclides is Associate Professor of International Relations at the Panteion University in Athens
    Alexis Heraclides (i)


    full text here


    btw, german speakers/writer are anytime welcome here
    Topic on German Macedonian Forum Македонија на Македонците
    Last edited by Lügendetektor; 01-14-2010, 05:47 PM.

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    • makedonche
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 3242

      #3
      "This leads us to another possible interpretation of the outrageous Greek stance towards the modern-day Albanians from Albania who have the misfortune to live in Greece. The fact that the two ethnic groups have been so intricately interwoven for centuries (well before the advent of nationalism) may have prompted them to erect fences between in-group and out-group, to solidify ethnic boundaries between them when none existed before (particularly as far as Orthodox Albanians and Greeks were concerned). What we are implying is the antithesis of the largely erroneous Samuel Huntington thesis of clash civilizations, namely the fissures which inexorably lead to endless conflicts. Nearness, being very close and intermingled as cultures to the extent of being indistinguishable in the course of the 19th century may have given rise to this trend for clear-cut boundaries on both sides (as seen on the Albanian side in Albania among nationalists and right-wingers such as Berisha and other like-minded Albanians). Boundaries almost by definition create a sense of shrill ethnocentrism and hate for the Other, the closer he is culturally and physically the more hysterical and ridiculous the downgrading, but also very real and explosive in inter-ethnic and inter-state relations, as in the case of Greece today. _____________________ "
      Lugendetektor
      Good find, I copied the last paragraph, it gives a good isight into the Greek rationale for ethnicity/nationalism, what they seem to be forgetting is the dangers of " boundaries and calims of pure Greekness". This i hope brings them undone in the eyes of the rest of mankind!
      On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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      • TrueMacedonian
        Banned
        • Jan 2009
        • 3823

        #4
        Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
        Here is an article by Alexander Zaharopoulos, he describes how the Greek schooling system systematically lies to its pupils.


        Source: http://b-info.com/places/Macedonia/r...3/94-03-28.mle

        TM I took the liberty to post this great article here as well, I hope you do not mind.
        I never mind Daskalot.

        Lug, makedonche nice posts guys.

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15661

          #5
          Originally posted by makedonche View Post
          the closer he is culturally and physically the more hysterical and ridiculous the downgrading, but also very real and explosive in inter-ethnic and inter-state relations, as in the case of Greece today
          And this is why Greece hates all of its neighbours. It stems from an identity crisis. It is a shame they are failing economically because we will not see change coming from Greece whilst they revert back to opiating the masses again with warped nationalism.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Pelister
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 2742

            #6
            For mine proper historians need to show some degree of objectivity, present all the information and all sides, and allow indigenous people to speak for themselves, rather than be spoken for.

            All Greek historians are fkn liars.(with the exception of a few)

            Greek education reflects Greek history writing.

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