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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15660

    Greeks, is this the attitude you want your children to have?


    Macedonia earned a bronze medal in Kendo, the ancient Japanese Martial Art discipline. The Greeks had made plans for their lunch, the inexperienced Macedonian Kendo National team. However, the stubborn neighbors made different plans, defended their name, defeating the hosts in Volos, 3-1.

    Macedonia is recently admitted member of the European Kendo Federation (less than a year), had beaten the experienced Greek team for the bronze medal at the Balkan Championship held this weekend in Greece.

    Greece is a member of the European Kendo Federation for over 15 years, but the Macedonian heart defeated all barriers that the host purposely put up.

    Macedonia’s troubles started as expected, at the border.
    -Their customs officials held us there for hours. They turned over every peace of paper and clothing we had on us, looking for something so they wouldn’t let us pass. But, they didn’t find anything and after several hours we were allowed to enter - says Zlatko Keskovski, Kendo Master and national team member.
    The rest of the national team members are Andrej Atanasovski, Mensur Bojda, Nikola Baleski and Matej Josevski.

    The terror waged on the Macedonian Kendo national team was transferred from the border over to the local authorities in Volos. To intimidate the Macedonians, Greek authorities sent members of the Anti-Terror Unit to watch the training of the Red and Yellow team.

    - Their authorities were fairly agitated. We are accepted in the European Kendo Federation under Macedonia, with the MKD abbreviation. The host tried to scare us, we were told we would be eliminated from competition. We didn’t budge, told them we will sue them. This went back and forth and the start of the Tournament was delayed by three hours. The Greeks saw we are not backing down, and the other national teams started to get angry with the hosts, so the Tournament started.

    FIXED DRAW
    The clever and experienced Greeks thought of a very good way to humiliate Macedonia, by fixing a draw against the Macedonian team, what they considered to be the least experienced team from all.

    -The draw was fixed, even the other national teams knew it. The Greeks even brought in TV Crews to record the huge victory for Greece. But, they left the battlefield humiliated, in front of their fans. The Greeks had no chance against us. They were shocked by the loss, did not wish to shake hands, but were forced to do it because of the Japanese Tradition.- continues Keskovski.
    After Macedonia won its bronze, it lost to the new Balkan champion, Montenegro, though it did win the hearts of the rest of the five national teams, Greece being the only exception.

    - We are Macedonians to everyone. The rest of the teams were shocked by Greek behavior. The Bulgarians and Montenegrins were particularly disgusted.

    Greek Debacle watched by 1000 fans live
    Greek defeat did not cool off the hosts who demanded the Macedonian National team to quickly leave the Tournament fearing for their safety.
    - We were told the fans would attack us. We have swords, no need to be in a rush to leave, besides, the TV Crew who supposedly came to capture “Greek Glory“, I am pretty sure they were not broadcasting the match- joked Zlatko.
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
  • Six Guns
    Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 31

    #2
    Well done to the Macedonian national team!

    Not to take anything away from this great vistory for Macedonia, I must mention the way Greeks behave on the international scene is not doing itself favours. I wish they continue to do so..

    Once again, well done Macedonia!

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    • Traveller
      Banned
      • Sep 2008
      • 177

      #3
      Originally posted by Six Guns View Post
      Well done to the Macedonian national team!

      Not to take anything away from this great vistory for Macedonia, I must mention the way Greeks behave on the international scene is not doing itself favours. I wish they continue to do so..Once again, well done Macedonia!
      Yes, we will. If you want to be named MKD it's ok with us. But until the name issue is settled you 'll have to deal with situations like in the Olympic games. YOUR GOVERMENT IS NEGOTIATING IN ORDER TO CHANGE ROM , IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T UNDERSTOOD IT SO FAR...

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      • Orovnichanec
        Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 410

        #4
        Originally posted by Traveller View Post
        Yes, we will. If you want to be named MKD it's ok with us. But until the name issue is settled you 'll have to deal with situations like in the Olympic games. YOUR GOVERMENT IS NEGOTIATING IN ORDER TO CHANGE ROM , IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T UNDERSTOOD IT SO FAR...
        If they were negotiating to change it, they would have. No need to yell.
        "Oh, Macedonians! It is time we realized that the greatest demon Macedonia must battle against is none other than Bulgaria" - Krste Petkov Misirkov

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        • Traveller
          Banned
          • Sep 2008
          • 177

          #5
          You are trying to avoid the inevitable. You have proposed even the name Makedonija-Skopje which of course was immediately rejected.

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          • Venom
            Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 445

            #6
            If the name issue was settled today, do you honestly think the attitudes would change Traveller?
            S m r t - i l i - S l o b o d a

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            • Risto the Great
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 15660

              #7
              Originally posted by Traveller View Post
              Yes, we will. If you want to be named MKD it's ok with us. But until the name issue is settled you 'll have to deal with situations like in the Olympic games. YOUR GOVERMENT IS NEGOTIATING IN ORDER TO CHANGE ROM , IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T UNDERSTOOD IT SO FAR...
              But are you happy for your children to continue this attitude? Because it is the attitude of children.
              Risto the Great
              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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              • Traveller
                Banned
                • Sep 2008
                • 177

                #8
                Originally posted by Venom View Post
                If the name issue was settled today, do you honestly think the attitudes would change Traveller?
                Of course and i mean it. We dont hate you. The right word that expresses our feelings is that we are astonished. Astonished by your audacity (i hope it is the right word) to challenge (what we think is) our historic legacy.It was a shock to most of the Greeks (not to me , i am aware of that problem from an incident in my childhood in the early 70's) to see a country named Macedonia emerging in the Balkans. Most of us from Thessaloniki were shopping many times every year in Skopje , especially Adidas shoes. Anybody here remembers adidas ROM shoes ? My family (and many Greeks)were vacationing in lake Ohrid .

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                • Traveller
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 177

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                  But are you happy for your children to continue this attitude? Because it is the attitude of children.
                  The same things happened with the greek team of women in gymnastics when they tried to cross the border. The real hell could be unleashed in a football game (fortunatelly UEFA is taking care. Greek teams now that situation with Turkey is peacefull get drawn with Turkish teams. The previous years didnt.)

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                  • Dejan
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 592

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                    Yes, we will. If you want to be named MKD it's ok with us. But until the name issue is settled you 'll have to deal with situations like in the Olympic games. YOUR GOVERMENT IS NEGOTIATING IN ORDER TO CHANGE ROM , IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T UNDERSTOOD IT SO FAR...
                    Ummmm we ARE named Macedonia (MKD), and it doesn't sound as if it is ok with you mentally disturbed athenians. The MKD govt can play this negotiation game as long as they want, it is the Macedonian people who have the final say. Just ask Gruevski himself.
                    You want Macedonia? Come and take it from my blood!

                    A prosperous, independent and free Macedonia for Macedonians will be the ultimate revenge to our enemies.

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                    • Dejan
                      Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 592

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                      Of course and i mean it. We dont hate you. The right word that expresses our feelings is that we are astonished. Astonished by your audacity (i hope it is the right word) to challenge (what we think is) our historic legacy.It was a shock to most of the Greeks (not to me , i am aware of that problem from an incident in my childhood in the early 70's) to see a country named Macedonia emerging in the Balkans. Most of us from Thessaloniki were shopping many times every year in Skopje , especially Adidas shoes. Anybody here remembers adidas ROM shoes ? My family (and many Greeks)were vacationing in lake Ohrid .
                      No! the truth is you cannot stand us Macedonians, and your govt wished we didn't exist. If you people are astonished, i'd say it is because you haven't taken the time to study the real history of the modern Macedonian people, not history written by people who have no ties to the Macedonian land. Our land is Macedonian, and it always has been. So why are we not Macedonians? We Macedonians don't have the luxury to go by a different name, like the athenians.
                      You want Macedonia? Come and take it from my blood!

                      A prosperous, independent and free Macedonia for Macedonians will be the ultimate revenge to our enemies.

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15660

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                        Of course and i mean it. We dont hate you. The right word that expresses our feelings is that we are astonished. Astonished by your audacity (i hope it is the right word) to challenge (what we think is) our historic legacy.
                        Your "historic legacy" relies upon a perceived connections with ancient races. I genuinely accept the recent "astonishment", but I also strongly believe it is a product of Greece's manipulation of its national identity.
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • Jankovska
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1774

                          #13
                          Honestly this guy is such a waste of space it's unbelivable and for some strange reason he is tolerated as he was on maknews.

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                          • Risto the Great
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15660

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jankovska View Post
                            Honestly this guy is such a waste of space it's unbelivable and for some strange reason he is tolerated as he was on maknews.
                            All it needs is for one reasonable person who can make a difference to read the dialogue and see right from wrong.
                            Risto the Great
                            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                            • fatso
                              Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 301

                              #15
                              Congrats Macedonia.

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