Charilaos Trikoupis - Prime Minister of Greece 7 times between 1875-1895

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  • Rogi
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
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    Charilaos Trikoupis - Prime Minister of Greece 7 times between 1875-1895

    Charilaos Trikoupis (July 1832 – April 1896) was a Greek politician who served as a Prime Minister of Greece seven times from 1875 until 1895.

    Born in Nauplion in 1832, he was the son of Spiridon Trikoupis, a politician who was Prime Minister of Greece briefly in 1833, and Ekaterini Mavrokordatos, sister of Alexandros Mavrokordatos, who also served as a Prime Minister.

    To understand the time-frame, this is all after the Greek Independence from the Ottoman Empire and before the Greek occupation of Macedonia - i.e. during Charilaos Trikoupis' time, Macedonia was still part of the Ottoman Empire.

    Whilst he was Prime Minister of Greece, 1893, the Macedonians were forming the Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organisation (IMRO) and preparing their rebellion against the Ottomans (which then took place 10 years later).

    Charilaos Trikoupis must have known that there would be subsequent wars over Macedonian territory following its eventual freedom from the Ottoman Empire, particularly given that he set the Greek policies for territorial expansions - it was he who set the designs for the eventual occupation for Macedonia.

    He made this clear in his speech in 1886 in the Greek Parliament, stating that "...Greece would never achieve complete national statehood without Macedonia".

    Charilaos Trikoupis also foretold what the Greek state had in mind for Macedonia and its people saying “When the Great War comes, Macedonia will become Greek or Bulgarian, according to who wins. If it is taken by the Bulgarians, they will make the population Slavs. If we take it, we will make all of them Greeks”.
  • makedonin
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1668

    #2
    Originally posted by Rogi View Post
    “When the Great War comes, Macedonia will become Greek or Bulgarian, according to who wins. If it is taken by the Bulgarians, they will make the population Slavs. If we take it, we will make all of them Greeks”.
    Thanx for posting it Rogi.

    As we all know plans never turn out as they are planned, thus they have a problem, US.

    Now they are pushing it to the limit,to fulfill what they have intended so long ago.

    Really idiotic.
    To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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    • Risto the Great
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 15658

      #3
      Originally posted by Rogi View Post
      “When the Great War comes, Macedonia will become Greek or Bulgarian, according to who wins. If it is taken by the Bulgarians, they will make the population Slavs. If we take it, we will make all of them Greeks”.
      And what would they have been if nobody took it?
      There is the rub.
      Risto the Great
      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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      • Daskalot
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 4345

        #4
        Going back in history and digg up lost facts is our #1 priority, thank you for this find Rogi.
        Macedonian Truth Organisation

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        • Soldier of Macedon
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 13670

          #5
          Originally posted by Risto the Great
          Originally posted by Rogi View Post
          “When the Great War comes, Macedonia will become Greek or Bulgarian, according to who wins. If it is taken by the Bulgarians, they will make the population Slavs. If we take it, we will make all of them Greeks”.
          And what would they have been if nobody took it?
          There is the rub.
          Exactly. Leave the people to their own and they would have heavily opted in favour of remaining Macedonians with no other labels. None were required. But hey, propagandist thieves and bastards do their job well when they're in their element.
          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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          • Sarafot
            Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 616

            #6
            Originally posted by Rogi View Post
            Charilaos Trikoupis (July 1832 – April 1896) was a Greek politician who served as a Prime Minister of Greece seven times from 1875 until 1895.

            Born in Nauplion in 1832, he was the son of Spiridon Trikoupis, a politician who was Prime Minister of Greece briefly in 1833, and Ekaterini Mavrokordatos, sister of Alexandros Mavrokordatos, who also served as a Prime Minister.

            To understand the time-frame, this is all after the Greek Independence from the Ottoman Empire and before the Greek occupation of Macedonia - i.e. during Charilaos Trikoupis' time, Macedonia was still part of the Ottoman Empire.

            Whilst he was Prime Minister of Greece, 1893, the Macedonians were forming the Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organisation (IMRO) and preparing their rebellion against the Ottomans (which then took place 10 years later).

            Charilaos Trikoupis must have known that there would be subsequent wars over Macedonian territory following its eventual freedom from the Ottoman Empire, particularly given that he set the Greek policies for territorial expansions - it was he who set the designs for the eventual occupation for Macedonia.

            He made this clear in his speech in 1886 in the Greek Parliament, stating that "...Greece would never achieve complete national statehood without Macedonia".

            Charilaos Trikoupis also foretold what the Greek state had in mind for Macedonia and its people saying “When the Great War comes, Macedonia will become Greek or Bulgarian, according to who wins. If it is taken by the Bulgarians, they will make the population Slavs. If we take it, we will make all of them Greeks”.
            I need reference of this, can someone provide it where is that written, but it should not be Macedonian source...
            Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
            - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

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            • Rogi
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2343

              #7
              You'll find references for the above from these books:

              Population exchange in Greek Macedonia By Elisabeth Kontogiorgi (from page 30)
              Following the defeat of the Greek Army in 1922 by nationalist Turkish forces, the Convention of Lausanne in 1923 specified the first compulsory exchange of populations ratified by an international organization. The arrival in Greece of over 1.2 million refugees and their settlement proved to be a watershed with far-reaching consequences for the country.Dr Kontogiorgi examines the exchange of populations and the agricultural settlement in Greek Macedonia of hundreds of thousands of refugees from Asia Minor and the Pontus, Eastern Thrace, the Caucasus, and Bulgaria during the inter-war period. She examines Greek state policy and the role of the Refugee Settlement Commission which, under the auspices of the League of Nations, carried out the refugee resettlement project. Macedonia, a multilingual and ethnically diverse society, experienced atransformation so dramatic that it literally changed its character. Kontogiorgi charts that change and attempts to provide the means of understanding it. The consequences of the settlement of refugees for the ethnological composition of the population, and its political, social, demographic, andeconomic implications are treated in the light of new archival material. Reality is separated from myth in examining the factors involved in the process of integration of the newcomers and assimilation of the inhabitants - both refugees and indigenous - of the New Lands into the nation-state. Kontogiorgi examines the impact of the agrarian reforms and land distribution and makes an effort to convert the climate of the rural society of Macedonia during the inter-war period. The antagonismsbetween Slavophone and Vlach-speaking natives and refugee newcomers regarding the reallocation of former Muslim properties had significant ramifications for the political events in the region in the years to come.Other recurring themes in the book include the geographical distribution of the refugees, changing patterns of settlement and toponyms, the organisation of health services in the countryside, as well as the execution of irrigation and drainage works in marshlands. Kontogiorgi also throws light upon and analyses the puzzling mixture of achievement and failure which characterizes the history of the region during this transitional period. As the first successful refugee resettlement project of itskind, the 'refugee experiment' in Macedonia could provide a template for similar projects involving refugee movements in many parts of the world today.


              Macedonia and Greece by John Shea (from Page 101)
              With the break-up of the former Yugoslavia, an old conflict between Greece and Macedonia has taken on added significance for the international community. The genesis of the conflict is detailed here, as well as the modern-day events that have led many observers to believe that the area is a flashpoint for a major war.

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              • osiris
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 1969

                #8
                and somebody please tell us how this wannabee became a hellene given the fact they were mainly arvaniti in nauphlion.

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                • TrueMacedonian
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3812

                  #9
                  Same way they all became imposter hellenes Osiris. They were invented.
                  Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                  • Pelister
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 2742

                    #10
                    "If we take it (Macedonia), we will make all of them Greeks”
                    This says it all. Clearly, the Prime Minister did not think Macedonia was populated by Greeks. If he wanted to fulfil his wishes, then he would have to invade. We need to learn more about this period in our history, because clearly, the groundwork for invading Macedonia had been worked out during that time.

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