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Old 08-08-2018, 09:58 PM   #441
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According to iGENEA tests, 20% of Albanians have Illyrian roots - this component is much smaller than in Bosnia or in Croatia (Pazos 2008b). That's not all... According to the same studies the Albanians carry Y-haplogroup R1A, which is linked to Slavic roots. As an interesting comparison, the Serbs have less R1A than the Albanians.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:42 AM   #442
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Y-DNA isn't really important. Think of your ancestry as binary tree with you at the root, Y-DNA represents a single path (paternal lineage) in a huge tree. It's pretty insignificant. Although it is interesting to note that people in the Balkans have a close to uniform spread of Y-DNA haplogroups i.e it's very diverse with respect to Y-DNA compared to other regions.

Although the iGENEA genetic tests are autosomal which is generally accepted to be the best for analysis in population genetics.
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Old 08-09-2018, 03:42 AM   #443
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According to iGENEA tests, 20% of Albanians have Illyrian roots - this component is much smaller than in Bosnia or in Croatia (Pazos 2008b). That's not all... According to the same studies the Albanians carry Y-haplogroup R1A, which is linked to Slavic roots. As an interesting comparison, the Serbs have less R1A than the Albanians.
Albanians do not have more R1a than Serbs:
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...1a_Y-DNA.shtml
I don't think genetic tests, so far, can verify Illyrians.

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Old 08-10-2018, 05:50 PM   #444
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According to iGENEA tests, 20% of Albanians have Illyrian roots - this component is much smaller than in Bosnia or in Croatia (Pazos 2008b). That's not all... According to the same studies the Albanians carry Y-haplogroup R1A, which is linked to Slavic roots. As an interesting comparison, the Serbs have less R1A than the Albanians.
FYI - Above comes from the book "Language and Nationalism" by Snjezana Kordic.

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http://www.znaci.net/00002/420.pdf

Albanians may or may not have more R1a than Serbs (on paternal lineage). I do agree that genetic tests can't 'detect' Illyrians so far - the same goes for all other peoples, ancient or modern. I'm not sure if it would be all that accurate (in some cases) to associate certain haplogroups with specific 'ethnicities' either.

In general, the genetic tests prove that every nation is mixture of different elements or haplogroup 'components'. Also, on an individual level, we are all a mixture of (likely) many different elements - that we are not even aware of.
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The Republic of Mirdita, proclaimed by Catholic Ghegs in 1921:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Mirdita
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I never heard of this theory before.



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Albanians (Αλβανοί), name of an Italian nation



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Леток на Комунистичката партија на Албанија по повод бесењето на шест македонски партизани во Тирана

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Напишано: 1943
Првпат објавено: "Z๋ri i Popullit", број 2 од 18 мај 1943
Извор: Дејан Алексиќ „Душко Поповиќ - Ѓоко“, Архив на Скопје, Скопје, 1985, 345-346 стр.
Техничка обработка: Здравко Савески
Онлајн верзија: ноември 2014

На 17 мај фашистите обесија во Тиранскиот затвор 6 македонски патриоти. Во Тирана се раздели летокот, кој го печатиме тука подолу. Учениците од училиштата, во знак на жалост, спроведоа штрајк. Да се живи! Петтата колона со некои свои агенти, божем 100% патриоти, а учениците биле само 90%, се побунија затоа што тие, пак, божем направиле злосторство против албанскиот народ! Кога би тие направиле злосторство против албанскиот народ сигурно би биле капетани во квестурата или во полицијата во Софија, во Белград или во Тирана и не ќе се бараа со свеќа од фашистичката полиција по целиот Балкан. Тие се бореа против еден непријател кој е и наш непријател, затоа тие беа наши пријатели и со своите сеќавања ни се блиски. Не може да се трпи кога го бесат твојот пријател пред вратата од куќата! Нека замолчат интригантите по кафеаните и шпекулантите со патриотизмот.

Народе на Тирана, шест Македонци, борци за слобода, ги бесат денес фашистичките колачи на тиранската земја.

Народе на Тирана, на својата земја си ги видел обесени од фашистичките џелати твоите почитувани синови: Шукри Ишма, Амид Шијак, Ферит Џајо и Никола Тупе; на својата земја си видел како се убиени како лавови војувајќи за слободата на Татковината: Ќемал Стафа, Војо Куши, Садек Ставелци, Џорџ Мартини, Мисто Мане, Михал Дури и други; на твојата земја сега гледаш обесени, исто така од крвавите раце на фашистичките колачи, шест деца од македонски мајки, кои војуваа, исто така како твоите синови, со иста душа на самопрегор и жртви против фашистичкиот окупатор и против предавниците, а за слобода на својата Татковина. Тероризмот извршен над тие шестмина македонски херои на албанска земја, поради истата идеја - за ослободување од фашистичкото ропство, н่ прават уште повеќе да бидеме солидарни, со соседните народи н่ сврзуваат со заеднички пролеаната крв. Борбата на тие херои е и наша борба, тоа е народноослободителната борба на потиснатите народи против поробувачкиот фашизам и против неговите квислинзи.

Протестираме сите заедно против ова срамно злосторство, против владата Либокова - Кол Биба, против балканските квислинзи, кои се десна рака на фашизмот на Балканот и заколнати непријатели на народите, против криминалната алијанса на предавниците Либокова - Кол, Биба - Мер, Лика - Борис - Антоанеску - Павелиќ - Недиќ, против заедницата на балканските терористи со фашистичкиот окупатор.

Долу фашистичките окупатори и нивните квислинзи!

Да живее единството на потиснатите народи во борбата за слобода!

Смрт на фашизмот - Слобода на народот!

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[1] Во борбата со балистите на 27 април 1943 година во Ново Село, Гостиварско, биле заробени десет македонски партизани. Тие набрзо биле префрлени во затворот во Тирана каде што на 17 мај 1943 година италијанските фашисти обесиле шестмина од нив: Илија Антевски - Смок, Душко Поповиќ, Христо Оџаклиевски, Раде Угриновски, Драги Тодоровски и Трифко Андоновски. Истиот ден, Околискиот комитет на Комунистичката партија на Албанија за Тирана организирал масовни демонстрации на кои излегле илјадници жители на Тирана. Подробности за овие демонстрации наведува Илија Топалоски во својата статија „Нашата бригада и братството со албанскиот народ“.
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