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Old 10-26-2019, 10:18 AM   #231
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Австријанецот од Штаерска проф. д-р Рудолф Киндингер во времето околу Илинденското востание учел во Македонија,затоа што татко му овде работел на пругата за компанијата Чеминс дер фер Ориентакс. Подоцна тој објавил свои Мемоари под наслов: “Исечоци од моите сеќавања пред, за време и по Илинден (1903) во Македонија“ (ИНИ, Илинден 1903, Скопје, 1970). Во мемоарите д-р Киндингер сосема јасно ги спомнува Македонците како жители на Македонија, кои си зборувале на свој македонски јазик. Овде читаме:

„Бидејќи татко ми службено често работеше со македонски работници (аргати) на железничката и покрај нив имаше постојано двајца Македонци - возачи на дресина, кои кај нас мораа да преноќеваат во случај на потреба. Јас уште како мало дете го научив од овие работници македонскиот јазик... Сите работнички групи на железничката линија од Скопје,па надолу низ Вардар, скоро се до пред самиот Солун беа Македонци“.

И понатаму:

„Во 1892 година дојдов во Солун во Германското основно училиште во кое, како што напомнав, учеа децата на железничарите. Таму, отприлика во 1894 година, дознав за првпат од нашиот училишен служител - Македонец, кој беше од Гевгелија, дека била основана тајна организација за ослободување на Македонија... Јас бев единствен во училиштето што можев со него да зборувам на неговиот јазик, бидеќи нашите тогашни автриски учители не разбираа македонски“.

http://mn.mk/istorija/17350-MAKEDONS...-PERIOD-11-del

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Old 10-27-2019, 05:22 PM   #232
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Nice find Carlin. Thanks for posting.
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Old 11-16-2019, 05:02 PM   #233
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"Appeal and Biography of Milton Dimitri Manaki", published in "Ilinden Testimonies", Volume III, Part 1, Skopje, 2017.

"Молба

од Милтон Д. Манаки...

Другари, по професија сум сликар (фотограф). Во времето на националните борби бо 1903 г. на Илинденското востание, јас излегов четник со Влашкиот војвода Дабижа (Коста), да се борам против поробителите за ослободување на Македонија од ропството. Но од страна на мојот војвода и штабот на борците бев одреден да фотографирам сите војводи и чети и местноста на борбите за доказ дека навистина сами се боревме за ослободувањето на Македонија..."



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Old 11-17-2019, 02:59 AM   #234
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Always was interested in the Manaki's thoughts. The Ilinden Testimonies are a gold mine!
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Old 01-29-2020, 12:35 AM   #235
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Program of the Macedonian Socialists from 1895:
https://www.mn.mk/istorija/17857-Pro...od-1895-godina

"Гласот на Македонецот, кој е систематски задушуван од пет векови наваму, почнува да се крева. Неговиот подземен шепот ќе избувне со силата на величенствен и блескав вулкан, за да ги покрие со својата лава сите џелати и крвопијци, што ја обесчестуваат неговата жена и ќерка, му го грабат имотот и го набодуваат на ражен неговото мало дете. Тој глас чекал долго време за да се чуе сега со посилен и погрмежлив звук. Македонските долини и планини, горски карпи и пештери веќе се оросени со црвената крв на ограбениот роб-Македонец. Со пушка на рамо, со сабја в рака, тој веќе востанал за да се брани, да се заштити од јатаганот на гнасниот Арнаутин, од маждракот на дивиот Черкез. Оган и пламен вивнале во Македонија! Паланка, Кочани, Кратово и на многу други места, нашите браќа Македонци веќе ги пречекале дивите безмилосни поганци со отровниот куршум и остриот нож. Тие паднаа за слободата на нашата татковина. Чест и слава, поздрав и поклон на тие борци, имињата на кои први ќе бидат запишани во историјата на паднатите за слобода и независност на Македонија!"
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да се заштити од јатаганот на гнасниот Арнаутин, од маждракот на дивиот Черкез
How do they define the relationship of the Arnauti to the Circassians? I guess I want a good translation of the word "маждракот".
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What Macedonian Socialists are these?
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So according to English and Macedonian Wikipedia (which utilise a mix of Bulgarian and Macedonian sources), the editor of this paper believed the People's Federative Party (Sandanski's political party) supported the union of Macedonia and Bulgaria, so long as Bulgaria abolished the monarchy.
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So according to English and Macedonian Wikipedia (which utilise a mix of Bulgarian and Macedonian sources), the editor of this paper believed the People's Federative Party (Sandanski's political party) supported the union of Macedonia and Bulgaria, so long as Bulgaria abolished the monarchy.
Can you site a more specific example of how that interpretation was arrived at? Sandanski was staunchly anti Bulgarian, he was one of the few revolutionaries that Bulgarians avoid mentioning because he was so anti Bulgarian. He even favored allying with the Turks if it meant removing other interests from the equation.
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Can you site a more specific example of how that interpretation was arrived at? Sandanski was staunchly anti Bulgarian, he was one of the few revolutionaries that Bulgarians avoid mentioning because he was so anti Bulgarian. He even favored allying with the Turks if it meant removing other interests from the equation.
You'd have to ask Glavinov why he supposedly thought that. Despite those claims on the Wikipedia page I'm pretty sure Glavinov was a member of the NFP, which contradicts the claims that he was opposed to both Ottoman Macedonian parties because they supported Bulgaria in some form or the other
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