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![]() I read an article on Macedoniandocuments that ,if true,could be a major argument against the Greeks.Ioannis Kapodistrias was the first Greek head-of-state after it's independence in 1830.Before he was in the Ministry of foreign affairs of Imperial Russia,some secretary or who knows,whatever.It says that in 1828,while the decline of the Ottoman Empire was clear,he made a proposal to the Russians (giving in mind they too had their interests in the Balkans) of the following look of the Balkan countries that were to be created after the fall of the Turks:5 kingdoms organized in one federation - 1.Serbian Kingdom (Serbia,Bulgaria,Bosnia),Hellenic Kingdom (continental Greece,Pelloponese,ionic islands and the archipelag),Macedonian kingdom (Macedonia,Thrace,islands Imbros,Samos and Thasos)Kingdom of Epirus (Epirus,Albania) and Dacia (Wallachia,Moldova).Now,this is all great so far,but the author of the article didn't name any references or sources to back this up,giving it credibility that it actually happened.I was wondering if any of you has read this article or anything concerning this matter and can provide us some references to confirm that this thing really happened,because if it's only left like that,it will be nothing more but "another Fyromian attempt to falsify Greek history".Many thanks.
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Cambridge Historical Journal 1937 5 : pp 280-290 Copyright © Cambridge University Press 1937 DOI: 10.1017/S1474691300001542 (About DOI) Published online: 2011 Articles IV. Russia's New Policy in the near East after the Peace of Adrianople; Including the Text of the Protocol of 16 September 1829 Link:http://journals.cambridge.org/action...ne&aid=7824966 As you can see from the link, if sombode want full article must be payed 30$ so for now im tying to find some other link to download (which is very difficult to) and if i cant manage this i will buy it and post here. Another way is if somebody have access here: http://www.jstor.org/pss/3020733 Greeting. ![]() |
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![]() 3020733.pdf - 830.2 KB Thanks for the link because i didn't read that one b4. It was a very interesting read, mentioning about the events of Balkan wars, creation and the borders of new Balkan states and the events of the WW-1, a century ago b4 all these have been realized. Another proof that the usual stories of heroism, islamic or christian saviors, freedom fighters for the so-called independent countries etc. are just bedtime stories for us, the ordinary people but in reality everything goes according to the plans drawn by the elites. |
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![]() Thank you for your Welcome Makedonche. A za toa koj sum, se nadevam ushte eden korisen clen na forumov
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![]() DraganOfStip now you can use this from reliable source: ![]() Source: Cambridge Historical Journal 1937 5 : pp 280-290 Copyright © Cambridge University Press 1937 DOI: 10.1017/S1474691300001542 (About DOI) Published online: 2011 Articles IV. Russia's New Policy in the near East after the Peace of Adrianople; Including the Text of the Protocol of 16 September 1829 Page 282. Last edited by TojSum; 02-16-2012 at 04:11 PM. |
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![]() Thanks once again fellas,we need to keep finds like these coming as many as possible.Cheers!
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