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Old 03-12-2020, 10:24 AM   #1
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Hi guys,

Not sure if it is the same for everyone else, but the Medieval era in Macedonian history seems a litle blurry to me. I was wondering if anyone has any insight as to where I could get some information that would shed some light on this topic?

I'm looking for information on Macedonia anywhere between 500ad to around 1500ad - that 1000 years is a little messy for me and I welcome any enterprise that will expand my knowledge in this area.

In particular, anything on Tsar Samuil (in depth) would be much apprecited as well. For example, sources, texts, journals, websites, etc.

Thanks guys!
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Old 03-12-2020, 08:45 PM   #2
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Would recommend scouring the forum for specific threads, such as the one on Car Samoil. Otherwise, Macedonia was under the Byzantines for almost the entirety of this period.

What specifically do you find 'blurry'?
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Ok, I’ll suss the forum out a bit more.

So, things like records, people, dates, times, etc. I feel as though it has not been covered as extensively as say Macedonia in Roman times or Macedonia in Ottoman times. I know that sounds vague but there are important dates and events in Roman times and Ottoman times that mark the Macedonian people, for example the Macedonian Wars against the Romans or the Karposh Uprising against the Ottomans. But in the Medieval era I feel as though we are absent...Not sure if this is making sense.

Are you able to forward me the link within the forum re Medieval Macedonia? If not, it's cool, I'll hunt around for it.

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Just search 'Tsar Samoil', I think there's a thread on him. You can also find a thread dedicated to Bogomilism.

As for other important events and figures during that area, I suggest you look into the following:

- The Byzantine Macedonian dynasty and the Macedonian Renaissance
- Sts. Kiril & Metodij
- St. Kilment of Ohrid and the Ohrid Literary School
- The Bogomil movement in Macedonia
- Car Samoil and the expansion of his independent kingdom
- The uprisings and rebellions of Samoil's descendants
- Prince Marko and the Kingdom of Prilep
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The most prolific threads:

Tsar Samoil
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...read.php?t=879
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ead.php?t=5671

The Slavs
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ead.php?t=1947
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...read.php?t=791
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ead.php?t=5842
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...hread.php?t=24

Cyril and Methodious
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ead.php?t=7870

Macedonians in the East Roman Empire
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ead.php?t=1530


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Just search 'Tsar Samoil', I think there's a thread on him. You can also find a thread dedicated to Bogomilism.

As for other important events and figures during that area, I suggest you look into the following:

- The Byzantine Macedonian dynasty and the Macedonian Renaissance
- Sts. Kiril & Metodij
- St. Kilment of Ohrid and the Ohrid Literary School
- The Bogomil movement in Macedonia
- Car Samoil and the expansion of his independent kingdom
- The uprisings and rebellions of Samoil's descendants
- Prince Marko and the Kingdom of Prilep


This great, thanks!

A couple questions though...

"- The Byzantine Macedonian dynasty and the Macedonian Renaissance"

I heard this had nothing to do with Macedonians as a people. The region of Macedonia had been entirely shifted during the East Roman Empire's reign and the reason that that dynasty donned the name "Macedonian Dynasty" was because its founder had been born in that region of Macedonia - not the geographical region of Macedonia as we know it today.

"- Prince Marko and the Kingdom of Prilep"

Forgive my ignorance, but wasn't this dude Serb? ie: 'The ruler of Serbs and Greeks'. If there is any information that suggests otherwise, I have not been exposed to it.

But this is dynamite, I genuinely am excited!
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Champion. Saves me from running around the forum.

Anything on Krali Marko?

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Champion. Saves me from running around the forum.

Anything on Krali Marko?

Cheers!
Marko of Prilep, King of the Christians
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...read.php?t=337

Prince Marko and the Thracian horseman
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ead.php?t=1259
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Marko of Prilep, King of the Christians
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...read.php?t=337

Prince Marko and the Thracian horseman
http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum...ead.php?t=1259

Excellent, thank you everyone for this!
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This great, thanks!

A couple questions though...

"- The Byzantine Macedonian dynasty and the Macedonian Renaissance"

I heard this had nothing to do with Macedonians as a people. The region of Macedonia had been entirely shifted during the East Roman Empire's reign and the reason that that dynasty donned the name "Macedonian Dynasty" was because its founder had been born in that region of Macedonia - not the geographical region of Macedonia as we know it today.
You won't find much on the Macedonian people from this era as the only people that mattered to history were the aristocrats; the kings, lords and other rulers. The dynasty was established by Basil I, who was from the region of Adrianople, but the dynasty still carried the name 'Macedonian' - there is a theory Basil himself was of some mixed Macedonian/Armenian heritage.

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"- Prince Marko and the Kingdom of Prilep"

Forgive my ignorance, but wasn't this dude Serb? ie: 'The ruler of Serbs and Greeks'. If there is any information that suggests otherwise, I have not been exposed to it.
Marko isn't my strongest area, I believe he did belong to one of the families that ruled the former Serbian Empire. I've never heard the moniker 'Ruler of Serbs and Greeks', where did you read this? I'd say Marko appears in Macedonian folklore more often than Samoil, just going off 19th century recorded literature that has been provided in this forum.
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