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Old 05-06-2020, 12:06 PM   #171
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Read full article here - I only selected (and translated) one point so far:
https://expres.mk/makedonski-aktivis...kedonija-foto/

In an alleged patriotic advice to the Macedonians published in the "Constantinople Gazette", November 1862 - it states as follows:

"Please brother MACEDONIANS!

It seems to me that you look at your brothers with proud contempt: Bulgarians and Thracians, when you do not approve of their textbooks, and you rush with great speed towards Serbianism. "

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Read full article here - I only selected (and translated) one point so far:
https://expres.mk/makedonski-aktivis...kedonija-foto/

In an alleged patriotic advice to the Macedonians published in the "Constantinople Gazette", November 1862 - it states as follows:

"Please brother MACEDONIANS!

It seems to me that you look at your brothers with proud contempt: Bulgarians and Thracians, when you do not approve of their textbooks, and you rush with great speed towards Serbianism. "
The conflict over language is one the Bulgarians cannot deny, even way back then.
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Old 05-07-2020, 09:04 PM   #173
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Georgi Dinkov was a local Macedonian born in Solun in 1839. He studied at a Greek school in his hometown and then at a theological school on the island of Halki, the best school of the Constantinople Patriarchate.

In 1874 or 1875 he decided to move to Athens. Georgi Dinkov died in Athens in 1876, after failing to recover from the beating Greeks inflicted on him. In the same year his son Dimitrios Dinkas was born, an ethnic Hellene. Later, ironically, his son became a prominent Greek politician, a member of the Ottoman and Greek parliaments, who opened and maintained a Greek school in Zagorichani.

There is only one wikipedia entry on him, and it's in Bulgarian:
https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93...BA%D0%BE%D0%B2

He appears to have identified as an ethnic Bulgarian based on the writings provided in the Bulgarian wikipedia page. He also wrote the following, about the Antiquity of native Macedonians. This can be found in one of his letters to Stepan Verkovich:

"The Grecoman opinion about the origin of the native Bulgarians should not look odd to you, when we have before our eyes German historians who, blinded by Philhellenism, could not see in the ancient Roman and Greek writers the pure Bulgarian origin of the Macedonian and Dragian* population since the 9th century BC.

I do not have the selfishness to fight unequally with such famous historians, but when I look at all the writings in the magazines that have thwarted all their works to prove the Macedonians as Hellenes, we can rightly tell them that as they themselves testify that the Macedonians were not Hellenes, they could not be anything other than what they are today..."


Found on Bulgarian website:
http://strumski.com/biblioteka/?id=2412

PS: * I am not sure what the term "Dragian" population means. Could it be a 'corruption' of "Thracian"?

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PS: * I am not sure what the term "Dragian" population means. Could it be a 'corruption' of "Thracian"?
I would bet money on it.
And I wonder if the Thracians indeed called themselves that with obvious clear cognitive relationship with "dragi" in Macedonian (and other languages).
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In 1811, the English traveler John Galt visited Sofia and wrote: "Sofia is a small, unclean city, surrounded by low cliffs... Most of the houses are poor huts, and the mud on the streets is so deep that it made them impassable even for pedestrians. Sofia's population is estimated at 10,000, mostly Greeks, who want to join Serbs against the Turks."

Another traveler, Adam Neal, visited several Bulgarian cities in 1805 and wrote, for example: "Razgrad is a very important city. The current population is about 10,000, one-third of whom are Greek Christians and the rest Jews and Turks."

Tragedy! Ethnic Hellenes everywhere in Bulgaria in the early 1800's!
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THE ETHNOGENETICAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE MACEDONIANS AND THE BULGARIANS (with English subtitles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpQq...ature=youtu.be





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THE ETHNOGENETICAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE MACEDONIANS AND THE BULGARIANS (with English subtitles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpQq...ature=youtu.be




All this does is raise the question on how these travellers defined 'Serb'
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According to Bulgarian professors, Nikola Ovcharov and Plamen Pavlov, all people north of the danube in 13th and 14th centuries were "Bulgarians" - a new push from the Bulgarian intellegentsia to lay claim to historical Romanian and Moldavian figures.
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In 1890 the Austrian (of Czech origin) Karl Hron authored a study on Macedonians in which he affrimed their distinct ethnic character: Das Volksthum der Slaven Makedoniens (Народноста на македонските Словени). In Serbia, Hron's book has been widely criticized since its publication, while in Bulgaria its "silence" seems to continue today.

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https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A...80%D0%BE%D0%BD
https://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D...B5%D0%BD%D0%B8
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...0%BE%D0%BD.pdf

Here are a couple of quotes (in Macedonian):

- "По моите сопствени студии на српско-бугарскиот спор дојдов до убедување дека Македонците, како по својата историја така и по својот јазик, се посебна народност. Значи, ниту се Срби, уште помалку Бугари, туку се потомци на оние словенски прадоселеници кои го населувале Балканскиот Полуостров веќе долго пред српската и бугарската инвазија и кои подоцна со ниту една од овие две нации не се измешале"

- "... македонскиот јазик според своите сопствени закони за развитокот на гласовите, како и според неговите граматички правила формира еден сопствен јазик..."

- "Колку повеќе ја гледам целината на досегашните заклучоци станувам се поцврсто уверен дека посебната националност на Македонците ќе биде со напредувањето во испитувањата се појасна и подокажлива"



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1) No TITO involved!

1939 - Australian magazine report: Bulgaria has 11 different nationalities, including Macedonians.

Pix Magazine., v.4, no.20, 1939-11-11 (ISSN: 0032-0390)

URL:
https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-467076137...e/n35/mode/1up



2) Бугарската нација се создавала со поткупување aгитaтoри!?

Како Македонци станувале “бугарски” национални дејци – „Ќе ми даваш пари, ќе станам бугарин“… (“Од спомените” на бугарскиот преродбеник Петар Берковски од град Лом, 1894)

URL:
https://www.facebook.com/macedoniaen...4804914545402/

3) A group of Prilep residents in July of 1887 petitioned the Ottoman sultan Abdul Hamid II (1842-1918) to allow them to open a Macedonian public school in Prilep, since they are not Bulgarians and don't recognise the Bulgarian church schools.

They expressed their wish to be protected by the authority of the Roman Pope, but to be allowed to practice Eastern Orthodoxy.



4) The late Bulgarian philologist Dina Stanisheva during the late 1970's lost her job at the Institute for Bulgarian language just because she held the scientific belief that the Macedonian language is separate & distinct from Bulgarian.





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