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Old 08-18-2016, 02:04 AM   #1
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Recently stumbled across a Wikipedia page dedicated to the 'Republic of Pontus', a proposed state at the Paris Peace Conference (1919) that was to be home to the Pontic people. I have read many times on this forum on the origin on the Pontic people and who they were. I have opened this thread to further that discussion as well as any information relevant to the 'Republic of Pontus'.

Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Pontus
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Old 08-23-2016, 04:38 PM   #2
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Today Aegean Macedonia is the Republic of Pontus



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Old 08-23-2016, 11:32 PM   #3
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I asked my uncle if it is easy to spot the former Turkish national immigrants in Egej.
He said:
"as if, take a look at their noses ... you can spot them a mile away"
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Today Aegean Macedonia is the Republic of Pontus


Niko, do you mean that Pontic people were sent to Aegean Macedonia during the population exchange between Greece and Turkey to colonise the land?
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Niko, do you mean that Pontic people were sent to Aegean Macedonia during the population exchange between Greece and Turkey to colonise the land?
Yes, and the highest concentration of Pontians in the world today are in Aegean Macedonia. There are numerous Pontian festivals in almost every town, there are new churches dedicated to Pontians, there are Pontian cultural associations and dance groups. In some places like Meglen (an historic Macedonian region where St. Zlata came from) they make up at least half of the population. In other words, Aegean Macedonia is the closest thing to a "Republic of Pontus" that they'll ever achieve.

The same is true for Cappadocians, Karamanlides, Asia Minor Greeks, and Eastern Thrace Greeks, but Pontians are more proud of their heritage than the others, they network and take care of each other.
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Yes, and the highest concentration of Pontians in the world today are in Aegean Macedonia. There are numerous Pontian festivals in almost every town, there are new churches dedicated to Pontians, there are Pontian cultural associations and dance groups. In some places like Meglen (an historic Macedonian region where St. Zlata came from) they make up at least half of the population. In other words, Aegean Macedonia is the closest thing to a "Republic of Pontus" that they'll ever achieve.
And TV shows dedicated to the tragedies they suffered are on TV every other day. And Macedonians begin to develop sympathy for them while they forget about their own family's sufferings. All part of the Hellenic mind meld.

And the Pontians (among others) were not necessary to colonise the region. There were plenty of Macedonians there!
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And the Pontians (among others) were not necessary to colonise the region. There were plenty of Macedonians there!
That is not true. As the above map shows the exchangeables were located in certain districts to replace the Turk/Muslim/Bulgarian exchangeables that left in the 2 Balkan Wars and the Greek-Turkish War (Epirus, Macedonia, Western Thrace, Crete).

Of course, it was much more complicated than this, because after being originally located somewhere, people would start leaving and searching for a more familiar environment. For instance, a whole Pontian village that lived at the shore of a lake at Pontus and were fishermen, would search for a similar landscape.

Eventually, many refugees ended up in Attica and all over Greece.
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Macedonians were forced to share their houses with them.
Those imports had absolutely nothing to do with Macedonia, and now they call themselves Macedonians. Go figure.
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That is not true. As the above map shows the exchangeables were located in certain districts to replace the Turk/Muslim/Bulgarian exchangeables that left in the 2 Balkan Wars and the Greek-Turkish War (Epirus, Macedonia, Western Thrace, Crete).

Of course, it was much more complicated than this, because after being originally located somewhere, people would start leaving and searching for a more familiar environment. For instance, a whole Pontian village that lived at the shore of a lake at Pontus and were fishermen, would search for a similar landscape.

Eventually, many refugees ended up in Attica and all over Greece.
Ought to be able to exchange the above exchangeable with someone else from another forum. Seems that you forgot that Macedonians were part of that "exchange." Or are you trying to call us Bulgarians?
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Macedonians were forced to share their houses with them.
That is impossible.

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Ought to be able to exchange the above exchangeable with someone else from another forum. Seems that you forgot that Macedonians were part of that "exchange." Or are you trying to call us Bulgarians?
Are you referring to the (less known and involving smaller numbers) population exchanges with Bulgaria? Or to the Muslim/Turks? They were all from Macedonia, but I donít know how you see each group. Itís also not clear how the saw themselves and in which percentages.
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