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Old 05-03-2010, 03:18 AM   #11
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Yes i will change it to Provisional and regarding the Macedonian sun as my avatar i might consider it.
I think you should too mate, but your choice at the end of the day.
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Old 05-04-2010, 11:37 AM   #12
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That 1881 Manifesto is a critical document that Pan-Slavist Macedonian historians conveniently ignore or downplay, but the special significance of Sandanski's statement is that it came at a time when the Macedonian liberation movement he belonged to was dominated by intellectuals who were under heavy influence of the historical revisionism of the Bulgarian Exarchate, and, to a lesser extent, the Serbian Patriarchy and Greek Patriarchy.
Unfortunately, this problem still exists in spades.
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:02 PM   #13
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I think you should too mate, but your choice at the end of the day.


Indigen and SOM i have made the choice and i have changed my avatar to the 16 rayed sun.
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:13 PM   #14
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Wise choice, good man. It all starts from somewhere, you have made a statement with your stance mate, now dig in your heels and make sure nobody can deter you from your position. Macedonians should never have to be made to feel that they are asking for too much or something that isn't theirs, all we ask for is that which is ours.
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:17 PM   #15
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Indigen and SOM i have made the choice and i have changed my avatar to the 16 rayed sun.
You are a good man, Daniel, and you also now have a great signature, too!

FYI, the true Macedonian Sun is this one:

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Hahaha, I was waiting for that Indigen.
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Wise choice, good man. It all starts from somewhere, you have made a statement with your stance mate, now dig in your heels and make sure nobody can deter you from your position. Macedonians should never have to be made to feel that they are asking for too much or something that isn't theirs, all we ask for is that which is ours.
Thanks guys and absolutely correct SOM and Indigen that is the true flag well done.

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Old 05-04-2010, 10:55 PM   #18
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Indigen and SOM i have made the choice and i have changed my avatar to the 16 rayed sun.
DtG - well done!

You know what the sonce stands for and you have freely chosen it - that's what its all about.
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DTG, whats important here is the fact you understand what the issue is (clearly you do) and you have an opinion and want to make a stance (clearly you have). I say good on you aswell.
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Can't help it, mate, we (in Sydney) used to have ideological wars over the "official" (which was more or less banished from any use in community activities and was termed either "slepo sonce" or "sonchogled zname") flag and our original, which Eftim Eftimov has/had a patent on and is the template, minus exclusions, on which the Macedonian state flag of 1992 was based upon, that has been in wide community use since the 1980s.

Macedonian Sun (vistinskoto) is in the blood and there is nothing that can change that for me.
I have added it as your avatar Indigen.
You wear it well.
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