Birthplace of Phillip

[Amphipolis]

AFIK the Greek theory is that the original Macedonians are from the highlands of Karakamen planina (Gramos) which is at least 100 km to the west. That may be very well so, but that mountain is rugged and can't support a large population.

I don't know any such theory or understand what you're talking about.

[GStojanov]

In the middle of Pelagonia is located the Neolithic settlement of Vrbjanska Chuka (Willow Hill):

http://www.vrbjanska.cip-cpr.org/za-lokalitetot.html#lokacija

Here is also a book about the Neolithic time in Macedonia:

https://issuu.com/sonjcemarceva/docs/neolitot_vo_makedonija/162

[Stevce]

It's a decent theory, and Mariovo is much closer to Pella than Gramos. You are right there are actually a couple of ancient Macedonian cities in Pelagonia, we all know about Hereklea but there is also Styberra in the Prilep region which I have been doing some reading on. Then there is the Macedonian tomb that was found in Bonce, also in Prilep region. There were cities that were located near the locations of modern day villages in Pelagonia that have never been discovered in the Bitola-Prilep area either.

They have found a few more Macedonian tombs since Bonce.

[dave_petro]

This is the first time I'm hearing of King Philip originating specifically from Mariovo.

My family, on my Mother's side originates from there and I know of a bunch of folk tales around an old city they refer to as "Tsarigrad" that is yet undiscovered, as well as stories of ancient stone walls being found (one such story in my own family when a horse fell through the ground when ploughing the field), and I know a few thousand ancient Macedonian coins have been discovered there (many of which are now held by the bank in Ohrid)... but no specific references that I know of to Philip.

Hey Rogi,

Im pretty sure Tsarigrad is Macedonian for Constantinople or another name for Constantinople.

[Risto the Great]

I would imagine the term is a relatively generic term referring to "King's City" and the one for King Philip could easily have preceded the newer one in present day Istanbul.

[Karposh]

Hey Rogi,

Im pretty sure Tsarigrad is Macedonian for Constantinople or another name for Constantinople.

Hi Dave. Risto is right, the term is mainly generic that refers to the capital of the Byzantine Empire - Tsari Grad i.e.the "Imperial City" or; city of the Byzantine Emperors (i.e. Tsars). There is a subtle difference in the Macedonian language between the term "Kral" (a King) and "Tsar" (an Emperor). A king has his Kingdom (Kralstvo) and an Emperor has an Empire (Tsarstvo). That's the way I've always understood it to be anyway.

[dave_petro]

Hi Dave. Risto is right, the term is mainly generic that refers to the capital of the Byzantine Empire - Tsari Grad i.e.the "Imperial City" or; city of the Byzantine Emperors (i.e. Tsars). There is a subtle difference in the Macedonian language between the term "Kral" (a King) and "Tsar" (an Emperor). A king has his Kingdom (Kralstvo) and an Emperor has an Empire (Tsarstvo). That's the way I've always understood it to be anyway.

Yeah thats more or less what I meant haha. I think I was just a little lazy in my explanation