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Old 05-19-2009, 08:44 AM   #11
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My grandma say that our family nick name is conected to this guy, Sarafi, i can not prove it, do you know the mine in Sasa, she shay that it beleonged in that time to his father (boris) i will ask her for the name, well folowing my root my garnd father had two brothers, all three of them had diferent surnames, Nikolov, Dimitrov and Petrov, so this are the names of their grand fathers, my grnd grand father name was Stojan the only thing that remaind is nick name from the past, Sarfot or Sarafci in Vinica.

When i was litlle i asked my grnd father what the nick was meaning,and he say ''GAZDA'', i saied to whom, and he say to whole region of Kamenica, Lukovica, Sasa.

Ironic thing, when we moved in Slovenia in 1985, we lived in small place called Lukovica also. Sudbina valjda?

Dont think i'm silly, but that is the way i know, will say more when get more info.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:24 AM   #12
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I will put a link to it in the article if that is fine by SoM?
No problem Daskale, you can put a link to the newspaper clippings at the bottom of the Sarafov article, under the title of 'further reading' or something to that effect.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:25 AM   #13
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Here are the thoughts about Boris Sarafov from some other revolutionaries that were cited in their memoirs.

Sava Mihailov
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Even from then I was compelled to agree with Delchev and Gjorcho, that it did not suit to trust Tsonchev, because we could forsee how they will again, like Sarafov, want to lead the Internal Organisation.
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At the Smilevo Congress there was disarray among the warlords. One day Boris Sarafov told me, that he intended to shoot Jordan Piperkata.
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Even I also discontinued any links with Sarafov, I kept them only with Delchev………..I departed for Djumajsko with 8 people: Nikola Dechev of Stara Zagora and a young man, Aleksandar Drvodelov of Vraca; the other six were Macedonians. Then the battle began from the side of Sarafov against the Internal Organisation: so that Sarafov may enter as a supremist leader of the internals.
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I came to know Gjorche Petrov in Sofia during 1899. In the year 1900, when the battle against Sarafov begun, I had taken the side of the Internal Organisation.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:19 AM   #14
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My grandma say that our family nick name is conected to this guy, Sarafi, i can not prove it, do you know the mine in Sasa, she shay that it beleonged in that time to his father (boris) i will ask her for the name, well folowing my root my garnd father had two brothers, all three of them had diferent surnames, Nikolov, Dimitrov and Petrov, so this are the names of their grand fathers, my grnd grand father name was Stojan the only thing that remaind is nick name from the past, Sarfot or Sarafci in Vinica.

When i was litlle i asked my grnd father what the nick was meaning,and he say ''GAZDA'', i saied to whom, and he say to whole region of Kamenica, Lukovica, Sasa.

Ironic thing, when we moved in Slovenia in 1985, we lived in small place called Lukovica also. Sudbina valjda?

Dont think i'm silly, but that is the way i know, will say more when get more info.
Any more information Sarafot? Any connection between families from Vinica and Nevrokop?
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Makedonin already had this link posted on this very topic but I think it's such a good topic that it needs a bump up;

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fantastic thread great post som. the history of the great revoluntionary movement has been polluted by many different vested interests, and its time we began to rethink and rewrite our history by ourselves as macedonians not as anything else.
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Here's another pic of Boris Sarafov;

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Old 03-14-2010, 05:44 PM   #18
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the evidence is building conclusively that the bulgarophil feeling of some of our people in the late 19th and early 20th centirues was in fact a result of the propaganda and terrror of the germano bulgarian kingdom.
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