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Old 09-14-2018, 12:12 AM   #171
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FYI - I'd like to share a quick update.

I just logged into my ancestrydna account and ancestry updated their records/database by additional 16,000 reference samples. As they themselves explain:

"Since AncestryDNA first launched, we've continued to add new regions and improve the precision of your results. DNA research is a fast-paced, cutting-edge field, and you can expect us to make more advancements as DNA science evolves."

As a result of this update, I am now at 76% "Greece and the Balkans" > subregion "Greece, Turkey & Albania". Ancestry also made changes to their 'maps' and how certain countries/regions are classified. For example, now it's "Greece and the Balkans" on its own and Macedonia is listed as one of the primary locations. I am also now 24% "Eastern Europe and Russia" (which seems to have a different look and name).

Ancestry no longer lists Caucasus, Middle East, Europe West, etc. within my genetic makeup/estimate at all. They've been taken out completely.

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Old 09-14-2018, 02:49 AM   #172
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Is it true you can download your DNA decoding and upload it in different sites/companies? (for free in some cases)
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Old 09-14-2018, 03:48 AM   #173
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FYI - I'd like to share a quick update.

I just logged into my ancestrydna account and ancestry updated their records/database by additional 16,000 reference samples. As they themselves explain:

"Since AncestryDNA first launched, we've continued to add new regions and improve the precision of your results. DNA research is a fast-paced, cutting-edge field, and you can expect us to make more advancements as DNA science evolves."

As a result of this update, I am now at 76% "Greece and the Balkans" > subregion "Greece, Turkey & Albania". Ancestry also made changes to their 'maps' and how certain countries/regions are classified. For example, now it's "Greece and the Balkans" on its own and Macedonia is listed as one of the primary locations. I am also now 24% "Eastern Europe and Russia" (which seems to have a different look and name).

Ancestry no longer lists Caucasus, Middle East, Europe West, etc. within my genetic makeup/estimate at all. They've been taken out completely.
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Is it true you can download your DNA decoding and upload it in different sites/companies? (for free in some cases)
Yes, you can download your Raw DNA Data from ancestrydna for free. I'm not sure if it can be uploaded to different company sites - perhaps the answer is yes but I don't know.
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Thanks Carlin . I wonder why they still don't mention us for the subregion.

Also to Amphi, GEDmatch is one website which you can upload your raw DNA file to for analysis.
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Also to Amphi, GEDmatch is one website which you can upload your raw DNA file to for analysis.
No prob. Summary on the Region from the Ancestry site -

Greece and the Balkans

Primarily located in: Albania, Greece, Macedonia, Kosovo
Also found in: Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Turkey

Located along Europe’s southern edge, our Greece and the Balkans region rises from beautiful seashores to lands broken by rugged mountains. In fact, Balkan is related to the Turkish and Bulgarian words for a chain of mountains. For centuries the divided lands of this region have seen a clash of peoples, cultures, religions, and ideas. The Greeks, founders of Western civilization, were followed by the Romans and then the Christians. Bulgars and Slavs arrived in the 6th century, and later came Islam and the Ottoman Turks, creating a mix of peoples and nations as varied as the landscape.

Classical Beginnings

The early names associated with our Greece and the Balkans region come straight from the pages of classical antiquity: Illyria, Thrace, Greece, Macedon. From about 900 B.C., Greeks migrated to the west coast of Anatolia, establishing colonies that eventually united to form Ionia. Athens and Ionia became the birthplace of the classical Greek civilization, and the 8th century B.C. saw the development of the Greek alphabet and the first Olympic Games. Traditionally, the Albanians claim their heritage comes from the Illyrians, who lived northward along the Adriatic coast, where they were known as able pirates and fierce warriors who often fought with the Greeks.

Rome

A series of wars with the Illyrians (229-168 B.C.) brought the western Balkans into the Roman Empire. Greece followed, and by the first century A.D., the entire peninsula was under Roman rule. Romans admired Greek culture, and Greek was spoken throughout the eastern empire and in Italy. Many Italians went to Athens to attend its university and see the architecture and sculpture, and Greek intellectuals worked in Rome. Illyrian warriors served in Roman legions, and Rome even had Illyrian emperors. Another shaping force in the region’s future arrived in the first century A.D. with Christianity. Greece and the Balkans ended up in the Byzantine Empire after the fall of Rome, where the Orthodox Church became more prominent than Roman Catholicism in most of the region.

Slavs and the Byzantine Empire

As Roman rule weakened, newcomers made their way into the Balkan Peninsula from the east. Some, like the Goths and Huns, came as raiding parties. But starting in the 6th century, the Slavs came to stay. They included Serbs, Slovenes, and Croats. They were followed by the Bulgars—a Turkic people from Central Asia—who founded two empires in the Balkans. As the newcomers moved in, many locals fled coastal lands for the mountains, where they became herders instead of farmers. Byzantine Greeks lived throughout Asia Minor, the Greek Islands, and parts of the southern Balkans. They spoke medieval Greek, practiced Christianity, and identified as Romans. Olive groves and vineyards were common, and bread, wine, and olives were staple foods.

The Ottomans

After moving through the Balkans in the late 14th century, Ottoman forces took Constantinople after a siege in 1453. Athens fell three years later. Many Greek intellectuals fled to western Europe, which helped usher in the Renaissance. Others moved to the mountains, where the Ottomans had a harder time ruling and collecting taxes. Christian peasants bore a heavy tax burden in Greece, and as the economy declined, many were forced out of cities to take up subsistence farming. However, the Greeks still prospered in commerce and shipping. Albania was changed in two dramatic ways by the Ottoman advance. The mountainous terrain allowed Albanian resistance leader Skanderbeg to withstand the Ottomans for more than 20 years, giving Albania a national hero and point of national pride. The second change came later, as a majority of Albanians, particularly in the south, converted to Islam.

Independence and Emigration

Greece had staged revolts against the Ottomans before, but the revolution that started in 1821 ended in Greek independence in 1832. Greece wasn’t alone, as independence movements spread throughout the Balkans. Bulgarian nationalism was on the rise, and an independent Bulgarian state formed in 1878. Most of Bulgaria's land belonged to small farmers, and peasants made up most of the population, but as it entered the 20th century, the country promoted modernization and education, and many peasants moved to cities for work. Meanwhile, the lands around the Aegean were home to both subsistence farmers and coastal traders who raised and sold silk, olive oil, wool, currants, wine, and grain. War over territory continued in Greece and the Balkan states almost until WWI, and Albanian independence would not come until 1912. Economic crises led about a sixth of Greece’s population to emigrate between 1890 and 1914, and the United States and Egypt both become home to large Greek populations.

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New regions:


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Pretty interesting how the eastern european admixture now stretches all the way to kazakhstan.
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Ethnicity FAQ
https://www.ancestry.ca/cs/dna-help/ethnicity/faq

What might change?
Your percentages for a region could change. Some new regions could appear. Some old regions, especially low-percentage regions, could disappear. Or you might not see much change at all.

You could see new regions.
When AncestryDNA launched in 2012, we compared your DNA against 22 possible regions. We now have more than 380.

Previous Region vs. New Regions


What if you don't have data for a region my ancestors come from?

AncestryDNA ethnicity estimates are based on available data. So what happens when we don't have much data about a region? Here's a current example. We don't have enough data right now to support separate regions for Laos, Cambodia, or Thailand. Until we get more data, people from those countries will typically see a mix of China, Southeast Asia—Dai (Tai), and Southeast Asia—Vietnam in their results.

Two more things to keep in mind. First, some populations do not differ enough at a genetic level to emerge as separate groups. Second, countries change over time, and boundaries on a map today do not necessarily represent genetic boundaries, so there may be population groups or countries that never fall into a single region.

Genetic Communities™ White Paper: Predicting fine-scale ancestral origins from the genetic sharing patterns among millions of individuals
https://www.ancestry.ca/cs/dna-help/...ies/whitepaper
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Old 09-29-2018, 02:50 AM   #180
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My search through the ancestrydna database of records, and actually connecting with some DNA matches have revealed some interesting results. After exchanging a few messages online I have no doubt I am related to these people, which are presented as DNA matches in my list. We seem to have some common ancestors, or ancestor, which come from a specific area of southern Albania - or northern parts of Epirus, although pinpointing an exact ancestor is still out of the question.
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