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Old 06-05-2017, 10:59 AM   #21
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15 people do not make a population (see post#9) and that should also be reflected in Bulgarian demographic research of the late 1890s or early 1900s.
It seems those 15 were what kept the overall population alive then. You also do realize that many Macedonians identify as Greek or Bulgarian too, right? Just because it says Greek, doesn't mean that they were.
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Old 07-15-2017, 01:51 PM   #22
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Any census on Aegean Macedonia?
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Old 07-16-2017, 03:56 AM   #23
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Any census on Aegean Macedonia?
Modern or Historical?
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:11 AM   #24
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Before the Anatolian migrants. You know 19/20th century.
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It's in post#2, though I don't remember the source now. According to the following link, the 1904 Himli Passa census did not even record the few Turks and gave 100% Greeks (Romans). The breakdown of the Christians comes (I guess) from the Bulgarian studies.

http://www.hellinon.net/EthnologikiMakedonia.htm
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:19 PM   #26
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I dont see anything about Aegean. Those vilayets that are mentioned include a much larger territory.
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It's in post#2, though I don't remember the source now. According to the following link, the 1904 Himli Passa census did not even record the few Turks and gave 100% Greeks (Romans). The breakdown of the Christians comes (I guess) from the Bulgarian studies.

http://www.hellinon.net/EthnologikiMakedonia.htm
This census was based on church followed not language and culture.
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Before the Anatolian migrants. You know 19/20th century.
I'm a bit lost, do you mean a census of the entirety of Aegean Macedonia or just a census of Taso?
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AD 365: A terrible earthquake brings destruction, and parts of the island disappear beneath the sea.
565: The island is occupied by the Arabs, but liberated again by Heraclitus.
7th Century: The rise of piracy in the Aegean.
765: Thassos is pillaged by Slav pirates.
900: Occupied by the Saracens.
961: The Saracens are defeated by Nicephorus Phocas, and withdraw.
1161: The French count Raymond de Poitiers seizes, pillages and destroys the island. The inhabitants are sold into slavery.
1327: The Byzantine emperor Andronicus III brings new settlers to the island, whose population has declined. These new settlers were Cumans,
as can been seen in the links provided below.


(Andronicus brought Cuman settlers to Thassos, Lemnos and Lesbos.)

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http://www.gothassos.com/the-history...os-greece.html
https://books.google.ca/books?id=7DJ...Thasos&f=false
https://books.google.ca/books?id=IyH...Thasos&f=false
https://books.google.ca/books?id=9CY...Thasos&f=false

1) Max Vasmer wrote the following regarding Thassos, in his Die Slaven in Griechenland (in German):

An slavisch deutbaren Namen ist mir nur im nordwestlichen Teil der Insel der ON Βουλγάρο (Vulgáro) bei Conze, Reise 40, auf Karten auch Volgaro, aufgefallen, letzteres auch bei Miller, Athos 180 (Karte). Der Name ist zweifellos mit dem Namen der Bulgaren *bъlgarinъ, abulg. *blъgarinъ zu verbinden. Solange keine andern slavischen Namen auf Thasos verzeichnet worden sind, ist es schwer zu entscheiden, ob es sich hier um eine vereinzelte Ansiedlung von Slaven durch die Griechen oder um eine Spur mittelalterlicher Slaven handelt, die im Zusammenhange mit der großen Slaveninvasion hier eingedrungen sein könnten. Vgl. auch Šišmanov, Bъlg. Prěgled IV, Nr. 3 S. 84. Von zufällig im 19. Jahrhundert nach Thasos verschlagenen Bulgaren weiß Dimitsas II 848 ff. zu berichten. Schwyzer sieht in Βουλγάρο einen Gen. pl. Βουλγάρων.

2) It is mentioned by the locals that crews of Arvanites have constructed buildings (on Thassos), whose morphology places them in the 19th century. Many builders and constructors also came from Epirus and Bulgaria.

http://www.thassos-view.com/architecture
http://www.thassos-view.com/el/arxitektoniki

3) Edinburgh History of the Greeks, 1453 to 1768, By Molly Greene

Page 89: The Ottomans took Thassos and Samothrace by force and many of their inhabitants were then sent to Istanbul, where Mehmet's project to rebuild the city was in full swing (Topping 1986: 226).

https://books.google.ca/books?id=0Dw...hassos&f=false
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:42 AM   #30
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Don't think there's a whole lot to say about Taso to be honest.
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