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  • EgejskaMakedonia
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 1665

    #31
    I'm interested to know how and where Makedonia and Makedonija derived from. Is there no 'J' in Makedonia as a result of previous alphabets or something? Egejci are usually the only ones who use Makedonia however greeks use this spelling for their claims over the name aswell.

    Could this be a result of no J letter or sound in the greek alphabet? When my family's surname was forcibly changed there was no greek letter to replace the J, therefore a combination was made for a similar sound. I'm only guessing here, i'm not aware of the true reasoning.

    Sometimes when people see my name 'Makedonia' on playstation and such they will make assumptions that i am greek until i tell them otherwise, however with 'Makedonija' they will usually begin their attacks instantly since this spelling is used in the republic.

    In English i usually spell it as Makedonia, although in Macedonian i will write it as Македонија.

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    • Prolet
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 5241

      #32
      Osiris, The letter J has always been in our Alphabet, maybe during during the SFRJ era it was used more and its still used the same in today's language however the letter J has always existed. I can understand when Srbizmi are used with words like "Odjebi" however the letter J has always existed. Its not a letter that was made up and put into the Macedonian Alphabet during the SFRJ era, its always been around.
      МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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      • Risto the Great
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 15658

        #33
        The "ja" is a replacement for the "Я".
        Same sound but politically distanced from Bulgarian.
        Which is utterly ridiculous. It is OUR alphabet they are borrowing.
        Risto the Great
        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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        • Phoenix
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4671

          #34
          Prolet, in keeping with the violence theme of this thread, do you watch 'Sons of Anarchy' on Fox...???

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          • Prolet
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 5241

            #35
            Well Said Risto

            Phoenix, I have heard about it but i dont watch it

            Vodenka has advised that so far there has not been any riots in Egejska Makedonija, which is good news for us.
            МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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            • osiris
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 1969

              #36
              the letter j pronounced y has not always been in the macedonian alphabet.

              there were two sounds that were used with the y in it, and they had their own letter, they were for ya and yu.

              the symbol j is a relatively modern addition

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              • osiris
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 1969

                #37
                sorry risto i was posting and did not see your post, i agree wholeheartedly.

                The "ja" is a replacement for the "Я".
                Same sound but politically distanced from Bulgarian.
                Which is utterly ridiculous. It is OUR alphabet they are borrowing.

                __________________
                plus the letter for yu.

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                • Pavel
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 155

                  #38
                  this is becoming very educational from tupanitsa to old church macedonian.

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                  • Risto the Great
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15658

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Pavel View Post
                    from tupanitsa to old church macedonian.
                    Nice to see someone spell "tupanitsa" the way I say it.
                    Risto the Great
                    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                    • Prolet
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 5241

                      #40
                      Pavel, You learn something every day mate, its good for those who dont know to learn a thing or two. I know i've learned alot from this forum.
                      МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                      • Pavel
                        Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 155

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                        Nice to see someone spell "tupanitsa" the way I say it.
                        believe it or not Risto, that is the correct way to pronounce it in the literary language too and the correct spelling aswell.

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                        • Bij
                          Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 905

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Pavel View Post
                          believe it or not Risto, that is the correct way to pronounce it in the literary language too and the correct spelling aswell.
                          unless you're from bitola where everything is skrateno

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                          • osiris
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1969

                            #43
                            ale od kai si ti bj

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                            • Bij
                              Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 905

                              #44
                              pa bitola, naravno. od kaj so se naj ubaj zeni

                              but yeah, everything is skrateno. i love it. i refused to call a krstajca a krstavica. lol

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                              • osiris
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1969

                                #45
                                ibiza,

                                hey ale ti treba da doidish so nas sabota i setne mozhish da izlezish kako luda mlada makedonska devoika

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