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![]() My family was under the Patriarchate, while their first cousins at the time were under the Exarchate Church. They killed one another at the time and six generations later we are friendly with one another hearing the stories from the oldies. My family was 'Greek' because of religion only just like they were 'Bulgarian' because of their religion. All had Macedonian names and spoke the same language. How can 1st cousins be two completely different nationalities. Unfortunately religion was used to divide the nation and brother against brother. Before this they were all part of the Ohrid church. The abolishment of this church caused 90% of the problems in Macedonia.
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As for Cepenkov, he was an ethnic Macedonian that showed his Macedonian character as he wrote about how the Macedonians still celebrate Alexander the Great but he also supposedly (according to Wikipedia with reference to a letter from 1917 that he supposedly wrote) about Bulgarian history in Macedonia and ‘Bulgarians’ in Macedonia which shows he was brainwashed by the Bulgarian propaganda through the Bulgarian schools and churches, if such information is true. Although the term ‘Bulgarian’ was synonymous with ‘slavic speaking peasant’ and didn’t convey an ethnic meaning to all Macedonians, I believe Cepenkov (if the letter is true and not a Bulgarian falsification which it probably is) saw himself as an ethnic Bulgarian at times, mainly due to the Bulgarian propaganda. Figures like Shapkarev also supposedly conducted textbooks with the heading including the term ‘Bulgarian’. I want to know why Macedonians of this time period had books with ‘Bulgarian’ on it. Does anyone have any information regarding this ? Also I’d like to know when the Bulgarian schools began in Macedonia. I know the Exarchate opened in 1870 but not sure about the schools. As we know the Macedonians were not close to independence like their neighbours were and therefore didn’t have the political power to have their own national churches and schools without the interference of the Greeks and Bulgarians who worked on hellenising/bulgarising Macedonia through a means of schools and churches. These interferences are made evident when the Bulgarians destroyed the idea of an independent Macedonian Orthodox Church and to restore the Ohrid Archbishopric, which the Macedonians strived for with Bishop Theodosius of Skopje in 1891 and when the Greeks put pressure on the Ottomans to abolish the Ohrid Archbishopric in 1767, which until that time was the main church for the Macedonian Christians since the times of Tsar Samuel. Last edited by Chicho Makedonski; 10-30-2019 at 06:00 AM. |
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![]() Stefan Dedov (1869-1914) - Macedonian political activist, journalist, and early proponent of the Macedonian ethnic distinctiveness. Born in Ohrid, he studied law in Belgrade. He was the editor-in-chief of Balkanski glasnik (Balkan herald), which published Macedonian content in Serbian and French by a group of Macedonian expatriates in 1902.
![]() Stefan Dedov was shot dead in Sofia, Bulgaria on September 19, 1914 by Todor Aleksandrov's associate Slave Ivanov. Last edited by Carlin15; 10-31-2019 at 12:24 AM. |
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As for when you say the ‘Bulgarian label was attached to this movement and it’s desired church and language’, what exact ‘movement’ are you referring to ? |
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The 'Anti-Phanariot' Movement is the term I usually use but I have seen Macedonian authors label it the „црква борба“ or 'church struggle' as well.
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