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Old 09-30-2018, 03:00 AM   #191
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Interesting. Was there any indication of this with your ancestry dna results? i.e did 'DNA story' list any of those regions? Or are you also getting locations from southern Greece?
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Old 09-30-2018, 03:33 AM   #192
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Interesting. Was there any indication of this with your ancestry dna results? i.e did 'DNA story' list any of those regions? Or are you also getting locations from southern Greece?
Also showing locations from southern greece although has Kostur.

But I thought these trace regions were generic / telling a story of how people from those areas moved to USA in 1925 and not specific to me or us

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Old 09-30-2018, 03:41 AM   #193
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You're probably right, If you have some sort of genetic connection with anyone from Greece then all those regions which are exactly the same will appear.
Btw it would be interesting to see what someone from Serbia or Bulgaria got with regards to this.

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Old 09-30-2018, 06:02 AM   #194
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I guess the above clearly confirms that the 'DNA story' timeline & Dots are completely generic, and applies to anyone who gets "Greece, Turkey & Albania" subregion in their ethnicity mix -- good to know.

macorules94 - and were you able to find out your Y-DNA haplogroup?

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Why you're no longer 5% Portuguese: Ancestry explains DNA update

New testing methods better able to determine ethnic origins, genealogy company says

Anjuli Patil · CBC News · Posted: Sep 27, 2018

Ancestry, the popular genealogy website, is offering more explanation about why some customers who took DNA tests to learn about their ethnic backgrounds have seen some of their more surprising results disappear.

Barry Starr, the company's director of scientific communications, said Ancestry now has more "reference" samples from people who have long family histories in specific regions, and the algorithm it uses to compare results has also changed.

"As the science progresses, we're going to get more precise results, which means some of those what we called before low-confidence regions go away," he said in an interview from San Francisco.

When Colin Duggan, originally from Antigonish, N.S., took his test two years ago, it showed he was mostly Scottish and Irish, but noted five per cent from the Iberian Peninsula, which includes Portugal and Spain.

That blip disappeared from his results following an update from Ancestry Sept. 12. It turns out he's even more Irish and Scottish.

"For me, that's a pretty significant change," he said. "It's the little [results] that kind of give you that link to new parts of your identity."

Starr said the updated algorithm "makes us better able to more precisely put you into a certain ethnicity." This could explain why some people with European ancestry may have seen their ethnicities recalibrated.

"Europeans are actually pretty similar genetically, their history is migrations and taking over each other and all kinds of things ... they're not easy to tell apart," Starr said.

"And what's one of the great things in this new update is we're much better able to tell Europeans from one another and more precisely give them their European region."

More samples

Each DNA kit comes with a tube and directions to create an online profile with the site. Customers mail a saliva-filled test tube to the company's lab in Ireland. The results of the test are later posted to the profile.

Ancestry had previously termed some regions "low confidence" and always said a person's test results could change over time as methodology improves.

Starr said ethnicity estimates are compiled by comparing a customer's DNA to the DNA of people who have a long family history in a certain region of the world.

In the update this month, there was more DNA — 16,000 samples, up from 3,000 samples — to compare customer results.

While the company doesn't know how many people saw dramatic changes to their results, Starr said most of the feedback on the update so far has been positive.

"The vast majority were satisfied with the changes and many of them expressed that the changes better reflect the family history that they know," Starr said.

Duggan said he finds his new results more interesting.

"In general, to me, it seems like the product is more specific to what I provided them," he said.

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Reality television star Stephanie Saint Remy, who once appeared in the U.K. version of Married at First Sight, which matches people based on scientific methods like DNA, took the Ancestry DNA test more than two years ago.

Even though she hasn't seen the updated results, she isn't worried about what they'll show and plans to visit each country mentioned.

"I'm so fascinated with genealogy and DNA and general scientific advances," she said. "No matter what they say, even if it's a case where, oh, I'm not this culture, I'm that — I won't find it a disappointment because it's actually an advance in technology.

"It's not a case of they were wrong the first time, it's just a case that the science has kind of caught up."

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ined-1.4836784

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Old 10-23-2018, 10:08 AM   #195
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I just got my results (I'm also expecting my mother's results within days)

Greek 73,3%, Balkan 8,9%, North & West European 7,9%
Ashkenazi Jewish 3,2%, West Asia 2,7%, East European 2,1%, Iberian 1,9%
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Old 10-23-2018, 09:14 PM   #196
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I've always wanted to do one of these tests but am afraid of the privacy risks
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Old 10-24-2018, 03:03 PM   #197
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I have to share my first impressions on My-Heritage-DNA. It seems that in less than 48 hours I have passed to "the thrill is gone" phase.

1. The company doesn't provide locations of ancestors.
2. It gave around 750 profiles of distant cousins.
3. The cousins are characterized as "3rd to 5th" or "3rd to distant"
4. We have a common DNA that ranges from 0,5% to 0,1%.
5. There's an effort to rank them, not just based on this percentage but also with more criteria like length of common DNA parts and adds "low confidence" or "medium confidence" for some of them.
6. I already contacted the first 10 and had three feedbacks. It is interesting but you realize you shouldn't expect a meaningful information as our common ancestor is 4 to 6 generations ago (in the best case).
7. The cousins are mostly diaspora people in developed countries (the top ones USA 256, Germany 60, Great Britain 25 etc). Only 9 in Greece. You can think of any country, it's there. Greek and Serbian names are the most common as far as I understand.
8. My first two matches are two Serbs. Now there's a helpful tool here. While they don't give you the exact ethnic make-up of each cousin directly, you can filtre them by DNA ethnicity. Thus I could find the two Serbs have 0% Greek in them which means they are related to my 9% of Balkan DNA. I had a feedback from the first one we can't find a link.
9. I also had interesting exchanges with two women (in USA and New Zealand). One is partly Greek, the other was adopted and found a Greek biological connection.
10. I don’t see me paying more money for access to family trees or whatever they’re offering.

That's all for now.
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I have to share my first impressions on My-Heritage-DNA. It seems that in less than 48 hours I have passed to "the thrill is gone" phase.

1. The company doesn't provide locations of ancestors.
2. It gave around 750 profiles of distant cousins.
3. The cousins are characterized as "3rd to 5th" or "3rd to distant"
4. We have a common DNA that ranges from 0,5% to 0,1%.
5. There's an effort to rank them, not just based on this percentage but also with more criteria like length of common DNA parts and adds "low confidence" or "medium confidence" for some of them.
6. I already contacted the first 10 and had three feedbacks. It is interesting but you realize you shouldn't expect a meaningful information as our common ancestor is 4 to 6 generations ago (in the best case).
7. The cousins are mostly diaspora people in developed countries (the top ones USA 256, Germany 60, Great Britain 25 etc). Only 9 in Greece. You can think of any country, it's there. Greek and Serbian names are the most common as far as I understand.
8. My first two matches are two Serbs. Now there's a helpful tool here. While they don't give you the exact ethnic make-up of each cousin directly, you can filtre them by DNA ethnicity. Thus I could find the two Serbs have 0% Greek in them which means they are related to my 9% of Balkan DNA. I had a feedback from the first one we can't find a link.
9. I also had interesting exchanges with two women (in USA and New Zealand). One is partly Greek, the other was adopted and found a Greek biological connection.
10. I don’t see me paying more money for access to family trees or whatever they’re offering.

That's all for now.
Maybe some of these services will improve in the future. Based on what you described about myheritage it seems to be similar to ancestrydna (I guess). Most of the people I contacted on ancestrydna didn't even bother to reply to me - they're also in "the thrill is gone" phase it seems.

I suspect if you took the ancestrydna test you'd get close to 90% for "Greece and the Balkans" > "Greece, Turkey & Albania" Region. So, I'm not sure if the following statement I make is right or not -- but it seems that the ancestrydna methods/science of how they calculate and break down the ethnicity estimate may be more accurate right now than myheritage. (That's just my opinion.)
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:42 AM   #199
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Maybe some of these services will improve in the future. Based on what you described about myheritage it seems to be similar to ancestrydna (I guess). Most of the people I contacted on ancestrydna didn't even bother to reply to me - they're also in "the thrill is gone" phase it seems.
Yep, especially now that we have discovered that 'DNA story' is bs.

To Amphipolis:

You should also try to determine what your Y-DNA haplogroup is. Carlin and me are J2a (more info: https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...J2_Y-DNA.shtml), all you need to do is download your raw data files on upload them to another website. One way of doing this is described in the link below:
http://www.geneticgenealogist.net/20...aplogroup.html
Unfortunately you cannot accurately determine what your overall Y-DNA haplotype is (such as if you are J2a1-M319) since these require other DNA tests.

You can also try Gedmatch which has lots of functions, but the most interesting (and controversial) is the Oracle-4 admixture. This compares you with people from other ethnic groups and it tells you which groups of people you share a large admixture with. Unfortunately there are many models for this which give varying results and I think most are outdated.
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The DNA cousin matcher accuracy decreases the more steps you take back.
For your close familiar cousins (mother, brother etc) it is nearly 100% accurate.

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