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Old 03-16-2017, 08:55 AM   #11
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I don't think the protests in ROM can be generalized as just DPMNE supporters. This insinuates that these people are out there simply to support DPMNE but don't actually care about what is happening.

Most of these people really believe that the countries identity is under threat. If you look at video and images from the protests you will see a genuine patriotic movement.

Here is the problem though, these people are so brainwashed by political propaganda that they don't know that DPMNE already undertook the biggest Albanization of Macedonia to date. They really believe DPMNE is a patriotic political party, becasue they are ignorant. They are not just blindly following DPMNE because they want them to be in power, they really believe that they are standing up to the Albanians.

When DPMNE does pro Albanian things, it doesn't get covered, most people either don't know it happened or get a heavily altered view of reality through propaganda. SDSM recent actions are not only totally overt, but the propaganda machine is making sure everyone hears about it.

Macedonians lack a sense of perspective. Similar to how North Koreans have no idea what reality is like outside of their nightmare, we have a generation of Macedonians who don't know what it really means to be a patriot.

Think about it, how many Macedonians proudly wave the ventilator and feel patriotic doing it? They don't realize its an insult to themselves, and unpatriotic to do so. How many people, especially within the political class ever spoke out against the ventilator. Macedonians went straight from brainwashing communism, to this new brainwashing.

The desire to be patriotic is there, people care what happens to Macedonia. They just don't have the right role models and perspective to make the right decisions.

I am as hard as anyone on ROM Macedonians, but sometimes I feel bad for how ignorant and detached form reality they can be. Its not easy when you are bombarded form all sides with propaganda.

I encourage all of you to find youtube videos of interviews and the protests and you will see that their hearts are in the right place, but their brains are not.
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Old 03-16-2017, 09:15 AM   #12
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Well said Gocka.
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Old 03-16-2017, 09:35 AM   #13
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Here is the problem though, these people are so brainwashed by political propaganda that they don't know that DPMNE already undertook the biggest Albanization of Macedonia to date. They really believe DPMNE is a patriotic political party, becasue they are ignorant. They are not just blindly following DPMNE because they want them to be in power, they really believe that they are standing up to the Albanians.
I think a large number of these protesters are also employed or have family who are employed by the Gruevski government and feel they have to protest if they want to keep their jobs. Today it was revealed that school principals in Prilep who are affiliated with DPMNE were forcing students to protest and were making political statements in school.
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Old 03-16-2017, 09:50 AM   #14
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Here is the problem though, these people are so brainwashed by political propaganda that they don't know that DPMNE already undertook the biggest Albanization of Macedonia to date.
Biggest Albanization and biggest corruption to date.
I thought SDSM were corrupt... but DPMNE brought it to a whole new level.
Just look at what kind of materials they were using for all their "Patriotic" construction projects - styrofoam







Once they're built they are defective from the rain and water pours in



This is what Macedonians need to be protesting if they want to take control of their country back. But the media does not report this.
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Old 03-16-2017, 06:06 PM   #15
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I agree that there is certainly party employed protesters, and some that are under pressure to turn out. My point was that we tend to lump together the paid protesters with truly misled and ignorant people who think they are protecting Macedonia.

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I think a large number of these protesters are also employed or have family who are employed by the Gruevski government and feel they have to protest if they want to keep their jobs. Today it was revealed that school principals in Prilep who are affiliated with DPMNE were forcing students to protest and were making political statements in school.
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Old 03-23-2017, 05:35 AM   #16
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In light of the situation Macedonia finds itself in, with the recent Tirana Platform, amongst the disunity, & the Canada diaspora rallies, many Macedonians in Australia have called for unity amongst us within the Australian Macedonian diaspora, in a non political manner, regardless of church affiliation, factions etc., to not protest, but rally in support of the President.
It is not a protest, but a show of support, and a rally has been organised to be held in Melbourne
Being IT technically challenged, the facebook flier am having difficulty uploading so will provide the full details below, and hope that Melbourne Macedonian Australians are able to attend



Melbourne Macedonian Australians,

Join us for a celebration of our people & culture
Save the Republic of Macedonia
Support President Ivanov

For a United Macedonia

Sunday April 9th
12pm - 2pm

Macedonian Consulate
Hanna St corner 492 St Kilda Road
Melbourne

Supported by the World Macedonian Congress & all other Macedonian Australian Associations

Information via Facebook public Group "viva Macedonia Da Zhivej Makedonija"
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