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Old 09-14-2011, 03:29 PM   #11
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VEr eye opening.We shouldn't avoid our roots that we have the macedonian language existing from prehistoric times.With macedonian gods which others copied.Also it stands in stark contrast that their are theories of where we are connected to slavs etc.But our existence & our language negates that.Both language & people testify to macedonian existence & all those theories fall by the wayside.TAsko beleives that everything there is myths etc religion started first with the macedonians.Macedonians should get preeminence rather than other countries.
George I haven't watched the video yet. But I have watched this absolutely ridiculous video here:

TASHKO BELCHEV - the root of greek language is stolen from the MACEDONIAN language !!! - YouTube

George, impressionable Macedonian youngsters read this forum. You are promoting someone who hurts Macedonia's claims rather than helps them. I hope young Macedonians everywhere use their brains when watching such nonsense. Guys like Iljov and Belchev make me wonder how many people they have duped into believing their jibberish.

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I can't find a CV or any paper by this guy. Is he a scientist, a politician, an amateur?
He's on equal standing with this neo-hellenic genius http://books.google.com/books?id=sln...page&q&f=false
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:16 AM   #12
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I haven't watched the clip yet, and while I don't wish to pass judgement before I do, I can't help but agree with TM. Perhaps I will change my mind after watching it, or perhaps it will be another waste of time.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:02 AM   #13
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Greece is full of deluded people that cling to all & sundry myths. The strange thing is that they are better for it because it binds them together. Whilst I have not seen the video nor do I support every crazed Macedonian theory, I do see the benefits that others might not in this regard.
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Old 09-15-2011, 01:04 AM   #14
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We've had this discussion in the past before, and I retain my previous position - this sort of garbage is counter-productive to the Macedonian Cause, and we don't need to seek unity through delusional garbage that will have more serious implications for future generations. In what way are Greeks better for it (as it relates to some idiotic theories about antiquity and beyond)? How have those idiotic theories binded them? Macedonians need to be consistent (and not consistently idiotic), that is how progress and unity will be achieved in this field.
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Old 09-15-2011, 04:13 AM   #15
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TM you haven't watched the video you should watch it before you comment.TM the professor is actually affirming the macedonian identity of how it has preexisted from prehistoric times.oing by the video.If he can corroborate what he says all the more better.
As i said i have reached a conclusion based on the video.If you guys know so much why don't you invite him to this forum or one of the forums like maknews to speak & answer questions.The only thing i personally agree with him is the macedonia continuum from earliest of times.Don't fotget a theory is a theory.Also TM you should let the young people make their minds up forthemselves about macedonia not just what some professor says.I thought you should know that a theory is as good as the empirical evidence.TM why don't you invite the good professor to answer questions at the mto.I'm sure we have a huge backlog.If he doesn't cooberate his work well that's less accepted his yheories will be.
also you can invite vasil illov & donski as well.I watched the video & i should be entitled to comment.If they can cooberate their work that's fine all the better.

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George, all peoples have existed since prehistoric times bro.
I don't have the net usage to watch the video, but any claims that are made should be corroborated with other experts in the same field
As for the language, I find it difficult to believe any language in today's society has remain unchanged for the last x thousand years.
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Old 09-15-2011, 04:45 AM   #17
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In what way are Greeks better for it (as it relates to some idiotic theories about antiquity and beyond)? How have those idiotic theories binded them?
You have a collective race created out of myths and alternative ethnicities that have embraced their "mythology" and feel collectively stronger as a result. Macedonians have far less of their own "mythology" in this regard and I would rank us lower in terms of "ethnic cohesion" for want of a better description.

We Macedonians must ask ourselves why we have a nation that accepts such capitulations on so many levels. Why such a lack of pride in our identity? Do we accept that retaining an element of mythology is useful for inspiring and binding a people stemming from a biblical/ancient race such as (us) the Macedonians?
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Here is some info on him http://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ташко_Белчев
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Julie with all respect watch the video you haven;'t watched it so commenting is like wasted What do you like & what do you not like of the video..I think a bit more cooberation would help.But still he makes valid points.
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TM you haven't watched the video you should watch it before you comment.TM the professor is actually affirming the macedonian identity of how it has preexisted from prehistoric times.oing by the video.If he can corroborate what he says all the more better.
As i said i have reached a conclusion based on the video.If you guys know so much why don't you invite him to this forum or one of the forums like maknews to speak & answer questions.The only thing i personally agree with him is the macedonia continuum from earliest of times.Don't fotget a theory is a theory.Also TM you should let the young people make their minds up forthemselves about macedonia not just what some professor says.I thought you should know that a theory is as good as the empirical evidence.TM why don't you invite the good professor to answer questions at the mto.I'm sure we have a huge backlog.If he doesn't cooberate his work well that's less accepted his yheories will be.
also you can invite vasil illov & donski as well.I watched the video & i should be entitled to comment.If they can cooberate their work that's fine all the better.
I don't have 45 minutes to waste George. I wasted 8 minutes on the other video I posted of him. And if you watch that you can see a drunk making some pretty wild claims. With claims like these him and Iljov would be considered for nobel prizes if the rest of the world would just believe them
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