General Makedonski of the Pandouri

[TrueMacedonian]

Here's a bigger picture of the text written on the bottom of page 112;



And here's a little bit of info about General Makedonski while he served in the Pandouri.

[makedonin]

Yep, interesting find TM.

Daskalot go beshe publikuval isto pred nekoja godina.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Daskalot, if you anything to add with respect to this character, please do so. I recall long discussions about Mr Makedonski a while back, we should re-visit them here, as he sounds like an interesting figure.

[Daskalot]

The information I have about him is available on our front page. I will try and find some more. Thank you TM for this great find.

[DrVosi]

General Makedonski sure wasnt a Makedonski if that is what your trying to prove. Macedonian origin just means he came from Macedonia.
Any idea why he was hanging around guys like Diamantis and Kolokotronis??

Later on in section II it mentions a race of people from the Pierian plain?
Do you have any idea where Pieria is? Of course not.
It mentions that they were Macedonian Armatoles?? Do you have any idea what Armatoles means?? Probably not.
Even the Chinese guy who got a huge thread devoted to him called himself an Armatole. Thats your homework for tonight.
This is just another example of authors using the term Macedonian to describe the Greek speaking population of Macedonia.

- The best soldiers are a few Athenians, Acarnanians, Thessalians, Macedonians, Epirotes , Albanians, Bulgarians and Servians.

Surely in a sentence which includes Epirotes, Thessalians and Athenians you cant honestly think he is talking about Macedonians as you would like it. Luckily they are grouped in between the Athenians and Epirotes and not with the Bulgarians and Servians!! I beleive that was the logic you used in the other thread with the Rascians !!?!?

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Dr AV*

[Daskalot]

General Makedonski sure wasnt a Makedonski if that is what your trying to prove. Macedonian origin just means he came from Macedonia.
Any idea why he was hanging around guys like Diamantis and Kolokotronis??

Later on in section II it mentions a race of people from the Pierian plain?
Do you have any idea where Pieria is? Of course not.
It mentions that they were Macedonian Armatoles?? Do you have any idea what Armatoles means?? Probably not.
Even the Chinese guy who got a huge thread devoted to him called himself an Armatole. Thats your homework for tonight.
This is just another example of authors using the term Macedonian to describe the Greek speaking population of Macedonia.

- The best soldiers are a few Athenians, Acarnanians, Thessalians, Macedonians, Epirotes , Albanians, Bulgarians and Servians.

Surely in a sentence which includes Epirotes, Thessalians and Athenians you cant honestly think he is talking about Macedonians as you would like it. Luckily they are grouped in between the Athenians and Epirotes and not with the Bulgarians and Servians!! I beleive that was the logic you used in the other thread with the Rascians !!?!?

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Dr AV*

you must be blind or a you subscribing yourself the good stuff Dr.?

His name was MAKEDONSKI why would a Greek use that name and not MAKEDONAS?

tell me that first then I will help you out.

[DrVosi]

you must be blind or a you subscribing yourself the good stuff Dr.?

His name was MAKEDONSKI why would a Greek use that name and not MAKEDONAS?

tell me that first then I will help you out.

Because he was a Russian Your not the only ones that use ski, polish use it as well. .
Makedonski was a Russian of Macedonian origin.
Help me out now.

[Daskalot]

Because he was a Russian Your not the only ones that use ski, polish use it as well.
Help me out now.

He was a Russian, that somehow was Greek that rather had a "Russian" name then one in his native Romeika...... you are a funny chap....

[TrueMacedonian]

So I stumbled upon this book and so far it is very interesting. Here's something I found in it;




Dimitrije Makedonski. A Macedonian!

[TrueMacedonian]

Dr.V stupidly states;

It mentions that they were Macedonian Armatoles?? Do you have any idea what Armatoles means?? Probably not.
Even the Chinese guy who got a huge thread devoted to him called himself an Armatole. Thats your homework for tonight.
This is just another example of authors using the term Macedonian to describe the Greek speaking population of Macedonia.

Obviously you DO know what an armatole is and the fact that you state "greek" speaking and not ETHNIC "greek" is more than enough for me. I am sure you were on the top of your class in modern "greek" school but probably flunked out of Aussie grade school

[Daskalot]

I thank you TM for your good work, it is always a pleasure to read your findings!

[Soldier of Macedon]

So I stumbled upon this book and so far it is very interesting. Here's something I found in it;




Dimitrije Makedonski. A Macedonian!

Good stuff TM, good supportive information concerning this figure. Macedonians existed, and so long as the Greek position rests on denying the Macedonian identity, it will forever lose the arguments.

[George S.]

This is excellent,If we could get to turkish archives as well they speak loud & clear regarding our identity etc
George S.

[Risto the Great]

The Romanians intrigue me, especially in their interactions with the phanariotes.

[Soldier of Macedon]

Here are some wiki excerpts from an article about an interesting figure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandru_Macedonski

Alexandru Macedonski (Romanian pronunciation: [alekˈsandru mat͡ʃeˈdonski]; also rendered as Al. A. Macedonski, Macedonschi or Macedonsky; March 14, 1854 – November 24, 1920) was a Wallachian-born Romanian poet, novelist, dramatist and literary critic, known especially for having promoted French Symbolism in his native country, and for leading the Romanian Symbolist movement during its early decades.

The scion of a political and aristocratic family, the poet was the son of General Alexandru Macedonski, who served as Defense Minister, and the grandson of 1821 rebel Dimitrie Macedonski.

The poet's paternal family had arrived in Wallachia during the early 19th century. Of South Slav (Serb or Bulgarian)[1] or Aromanian[2][3] origin, they claimed to have descended from Serb insurgents in Ottoman-ruled Macedonia.[2] Alexandru's grandfather Dimitrie and Dimitrie's brother Pavel participated in the 1821 uprising against the Phanariote administration, and in alliance with the Filiki Eteria; Dimitrie made the object of controversy when, during the final stage of the revolt, he sided with the Eteria in its confrontation with Wallachian leader Tudor Vladimirescu, taking an active part in the latter's killing.[4]

[1]^ Călinescu, p.517; Vianu, Vol.II, p.330
[2]^ a b c Călinescu, p.517
[3]^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p (Romanian) Virgiliu Z. Teodorescu, "Alexandru Macedonski - 150 de ani de la naştere", in Cronica Romānă, March 15, 2004
[4]^ Călinescu, p.517; Vianu, Vol.II, p.333-334

How sad it is that Macedonia lost many of her talented people not for the unprepared Macedonian Cause, but for the causes of other peoples. This is just one of many examples, and it is these such examples which allow people to create lies and write such rubbish about people of Macedonian origin. The Makedonski family were exactly as their namesake suggests - Macedonians.