FASCIST GREECE - unspoken history

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  • Bratot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2855

    FASCIST GREECE - unspoken history

    The fascist era in Greece (1936-1941) is probably the least known and most obscure period of modern Greek history, and has caught so far very little attention from both scholars and historians.




    Greek version of Hitler copy-paste mustache hehe Metaxas photo:





    In an interesting Epilogue to his series of articles Metaxas wrote on 23 January 1935:

    "Venizelos and i invited you to look backwards to the past. Now i urge you to look forward to the future; and since you cannot live without ideals, the only suitable ideal is that of the Hellenic Idea. The Great idea (I Megali Idea) itself did not fail; only the attempt at its territorial implementation. The Greco-Byzantine perception of if has failed, but not its ancient classical form of Hellenism. Our [my] disagreement with Venizelos, in the final analysis, is over the understanding, the meaning, significance and form of the Hellenic Idea"
    “I am ready for every sacrifice for the honour of Greece”

    Μεταξάς - Χίτλερ - Ελληνογερμανικές σχέσεις στην Μεταξική δικτατορία 1936-1941
















    Modern Nazi Greeks:

    Greek Youth Nazi



    With only one release out, this band is regarded as one of the very best White Power bands in the whole White world. A short overview on this Athenian outfit follows...

    Iron Youth is the most outstanding White Power band in Hellas. The band plays skinhead oi, with some metal, hardcore and thrash influences. One of the main characteristics of the band is their strong and heavy guitar work as well as their straight-to-face style, not lacking however melody or some musical sensitivity (like the outro "After the war", a very nice piece of piano work) that altogether makes this band one of the very best skinhead bands in the whole world!
    Being a nazi-skinhead band as Iron Youth is, I cannot avoid mentioning the political stands of the band. They are closely linked to XRUSH AUGH ("Golden Dawn"), which is Greece's most important National Socialist party and considered by many in the world racialist scene as a model of NS organization.

    EON (Ethniki Organosis Neolaias - National Youth Organization) had been formed by Alexandro Kanellopoulos. It was subdivided into two age groups: Scaponfs (Pioneers): young people of 10 to 13 years Phalangites (Falangists): young people of 14 to 25 years.


    During the Serbian Army’s bloody “ethnic cleansing” of the Bosnians, the public service trade union, the General Confederation of Greek Workers, and the Archbishop of Greece, with the full support of all Greek political parties, welcomed the Serb war criminal Radovan Karadzic as a hero in the biggest stadium in Piraeus. At exactly the same time, Golden Dawn sent some of its members to join the so-called “Greek Volunteer Guard” to fight on the side of the Serb Chetniks. After the bestial massacres at Srebrenica, this “Guard” triumphantly raised the Greek flag side-by-side with the Chetnik flag.

    You can see even the Greek NAZI priest salut, insane:

    YouTube - Greece - December 1937
    The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot
  • TerraNova
    Banned
    • Nov 2008
    • 473

    #2
    That the Metaxas Dictatorship was imitating gestures and types of organizations of the fascists is beyond any doubt.

    But
    1st)It was a DICTATORSHIP -NOT an elected party (Like those of Nazi's in Germany or Fascists in Italy)
    2nd)Even under this dictatorship Greeks fought the Nazis and Fascists.

    3rd)As i already wrote you ,after the conquest (lasted more than 6 months)
    Greek resistance was the 1st in Europe together with Serbian.

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    • Dimko-piperkata
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1876

      #3
      dont waste ur time here to hide the truth !

      all non-brainwashed peoples knows greeces support to the nazi/holocaust-regime in germany!
      1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
      2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...

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      • Thorvald
        Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 145

        #4
        Originally posted by TerraNova View Post
        That the Metaxas Dictatorship was imitating gestures and types of organizations of the fascists is beyond any doubt.

        But
        1st)It was a DICTATORSHIP -NOT an elected party (Like those of Nazi's in Germany or Fascists in Italy)
        2nd)Even under this dictatorship Greeks fought the Nazis and Fascists.

        3rd)As i already wrote you ,after the conquest (lasted more than 6 months)
        Greek resistance was the 1st in Europe together with Serbian.

        Is that right?

        I personly think you have a totally wrong conception of how Germany back then and today was all about, and secondly, acusing others of being Facist/Nazi, while your own history isn't clean at all.
        https://germanictribes.proboards.com/
        European preservation

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        • The LION will ROAR
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 3231

          #5
          When you visit Greece, as i have You see signs all over the country "Macedonia is Greece" on
          .
          1. Billboards
          2. Building
          3. Corner shops
          4. Walls
          5. Even on the tourist islands
          6. Train and bus tickets
          7. TV commercials
          8. Schools
          9. Fake documents
          10. Cars stickers
          .
          Isn't that a form of Fascism/Communism?
          .
          China doesn't even go as far as that????
          .
          Also no rights to the minorities..
          No school
          No churches
          Not allowed to speak their own Language..
          Must declare GREEKNESS
          .
          Isn't that Dictatorship?????
          .
          AND GREECE CAN CRITICISE OTHERS??????????
          The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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          • osiris
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 1969

            #6
            this is a very important thread because its this era that defines modern greeces idea of who they are and what is modern hellenism. unlike germany who it must be said have agonised deeply about their nazi era and have actualy been one of the only modern european nations to confront head on what happened and tried to undrestand and rectify their nation so a nazi era will never happen again, greece cotinues to ignore and even still celebrate their facsist era and the hellenic mythology it created.

            i applaud germany for its courage, its integrity its willingness to acceept responsibility and to change, pity the wanabees dont , but then germany has never lived a lie like modern greece did and stil do.

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            • TerraNova
              Banned
              • Nov 2008
              • 473

              #7
              Originally posted by The LION will ROAR View Post
              When you visit Greece, as i have You see signs all over the country "Macedonia is Greece" on
              .
              1. Billboards
              2. Building
              3. Corner shops
              4. Walls
              5. Even on the tourist islands
              6. Train and bus tickets
              7. TV commercials
              8. Schools
              9. Fake documents
              10. Cars stickers
              .
              Isn't that a form of Fascism/Communism?
              .
              China doesn't even go as far as that????
              .
              Also no rights to the minorities..
              No school
              No churches
              Not allowed to speak their own Language..
              Must declare GREEKNESS
              .
              Isn't that Dictatorship?????
              .
              AND GREECE CAN CRITICISE OTHERS??????????
              Are these your grandma's tails ?

              Let me guess..you re from Sydney!

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                #8
                Why do you belittle the author TN.
                I have seen over 90% of these with my own eyes in Greece as recent as 1 year ago.
                Are you really in denial that much?
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • TerraNova
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 473

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                  Why do you belittle the author TN.
                  I have seen over 90% of these with my own eyes in Greece as recent as 1 year ago.
                  Are you really in denial that much?
                  Yes...i m sure you saw people executed on the streets because they dared to speak another language...

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                  • Risto the Great
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15658

                    #10
                    For crying out loud, where was that written in the preceding text?
                    What drugs are you on?
                    Risto the Great
                    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                    • TerraNova
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 473

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                      For crying out loud, where was that written in the preceding text?
                      What drugs are you on?
                      The lion that roars wrote:
                      "Not allowed to speak their own Language..
                      Must declare GREEKNESS
                      .
                      Isn't that Dictatorship?????"


                      Is that Australian pot?

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15658

                        #12
                        Ummm, I did not see anyone executed on the streets for it like you stated. It was the reason I felt you were manipulating yet another thread with distractions of an apologist. I was right.
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • The LION will ROAR
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3231

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TerraNova View Post
                          Are these your grandma's tails ?

                          Let me guess..you re from Sydney!
                          .
                          TerraNova
                          Why do you think that i would make this up..
                          I'm sure you have been to greece recently to see what is happening..
                          I have been there saw alot of propaganda..signs everywhere..
                          "Macedonia is Greece"
                          Why do you deny that the Macedonians in Greece, as you would call them slavaphone...have no rights when it comes to Language, schools and churches or identity... they are forced to speak only in Greek?
                          TN..were you force to speak in English only?
                          Please we have overwhelming evidence...
                          Have you been in northern part of Greece to see the difference in the people? Yet majority would not tell you face on that they are not Greeks...they do not want to scrafice their livelyhood...
                          TN.. i'm sure you a more reasonable person then many other Greeks on other forum who just deny every fact or evidence we provide...surly they all can't be False or FAKE?????
                          As i have quoted before on other forums..
                          Have you herd of "Love is BLIND".....but in many cases from the GREEKS
                          "HATE is BLIND"

                          .
                          POZDRAV
                          The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                          • TerraNova
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 473

                            #14
                            Originally posted by The LION will ROAR View Post
                            .
                            TerraNova
                            Why do you think that i would make this up..
                            I'm sure you have been to greece recently to see what is happening..
                            I have been there saw alot of propaganda..signs everywhere..
                            "Macedonia is Greece"
                            I ve been living all my life in Greece.Most of it in Macedonia.

                            "Macedonia is Greece/Greek" does not refer to RoM,but to the Greek part and the cultural heritage.

                            If you find this offensive,a Greek could find offensive that there is the sign "Republika Makedonija" at your side of the orders.

                            I don't find any of them.

                            have no rights when it comes to Language, schools and churches or identity... they are forced to speak only in Greek?
                            TN..were you force to speak in English only?
                            We ve been through this again.
                            Slavic/Macedonian speaking ppl in Greece are really few,mostly elders.
                            Among theme there are really fewer who declare ethnic Macedonians. (Let me remind you the 2000 votes (out of 2.500.000 popul. of the region) which Rainbow-the ethnic Macedonian party gets)
                            And even i doubt they are a majority in more than a handful of villages.

                            I m not aware they had an application for separate schools or classes in Macedonian language.

                            But even if there was such a demand...first there should be separate schools and classes for Romanian children 9they are much more ,as immigrants) or Bulgarian,or Egyptian immigrants...and Pakistanis...or Armenians...or everyone who counts some 1000 souls in the country!

                            thats impossible i guess-although i would support such an attempt.

                            As for "forced to speak Greek"...we re not in 30's not even in '70s and the dictatorship.
                            We re in 2009.Everyday in the streets of Thessaloniki i can hear foreign languages....nobody is forced !
                            Don't live in the past.

                            Have you been in northern part of Greece to see the difference in the people? Yet majority would not tell you face on that they are not Greeks...they do not want to scrafice their livelyhood...
                            I live there Lionthatroars...
                            Plz come to see it in your own eyes.
                            I don't have a better way to persuade you.

                            TN.. i'm sure you a more reasonable person then many other Greeks on other forum who just deny every fact or evidence we provide...surly they all can't be False or FAKE?????
                            Lion,this is a forum where many nationalists write.
                            Nationalists (no matter their ethnicity-Greek,Macedonian,Albanian,Indonesian) have a tendency to promote fake ,distorted or biased evidence to support their view.
                            It's not a surprise.

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                            • Soldier of Macedon
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 13670

                              #15
                              Lion,this is a forum where many nationalists write.
                              Nationalists (no matter their ethnicity-Greek,Macedonian,Albanian,Indonesian) have a tendency to promote fake ,distorted or biased evidence to support their view.
                              It's not a surprise.
                              Whereas Macedonians promote the truth. Welcome home.
                              In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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