They can deny all they want to but Macedonian is spoken in 'greece' & Bulgaria!!!

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  • TrueMacedonian
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 3812

    They can deny all they want to but Macedonian is spoken in 'greece' & Bulgaria!!!

    Here's a recent book published in '08. I like how she refers to our southern neighbors language as 'modern greek' as opposed to just 'greek'




    and here's some Friedman;







    Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!
  • Daskalot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4345

    #2
    Nice find TM, lets see if we get some response from our neighbours.
    Macedonian Truth Organisation

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    • Sarafot
      Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 616

      #3
      Bravo,you are the greek slayer!
      Ние македонците не сме ни срби, ни бугари, туку просто Македонци. Ние ги симпатизираме и едните и другите, кој ќе не ослободи, нему ќе му речеме благодарам, но србите и бугарите нека не забораваат дека Македонија е само за Македонците.
      - Борис Сарафов, 2 септември 1902

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      • DrVosi
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 18

        #4
        According to Friedman

        1/ Ancient Macedonian was an Independent Indo European language of Unknown Affilition

        2/ This gave way to Greek

        3/ Which in turn was supplanted by Slavonic when the Slavs invaded and settled in the Balkans in 6 and 7 AD

        Great find.

        According to this Greek was spoken in Macedonia before Slavonic and it was still spoken in Macedonia 150 years ago in the south of Macedonia.
        Friedman forgot to mention that.

        Again Nice find.

        ----
        Dr AV*
        Last edited by DrVosi; 04-06-2009, 09:44 PM.

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15658

          #5
          Originally posted by DrVosi View Post
          According to this Greek was spoken in Macedonia before Slavonic and it was still spoken in Macedonia 150 years ago in the south of Macedonia.
          Sorry, there was no such thing as Greek (language/people) before Slavonic in Macedonia.
          But many spoke the lingua franca of the time in addition to the ancient Macedonian language. Do you care to dispute this?
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Pelister
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 2742

            #6
            Originally posted by DrVosi View Post
            According to Friedman

            1/ Ancient Macedonian was an Independent Indo European language of Unknown Affilition

            2/ This gave way to Greek

            3/ Which in turn was supplanted by Slavonic when the Slavs invaded and settled in the Balkans in 6 and 7 AD

            Great find.

            According to this Greek was spoken in Macedonia before Slavonic and it was still spoken in Macedonia 150 years ago in the south of Macedonia.
            Friedman forgot to mention that.

            Again Nice find.

            ----
            Dr AV*
            Nice analysis. Two caveats.

            One, Greek was spoken only by the Macedonian aristocracy, and it was an adopted language. Two, the Slavic language has a presence in ancient Macedonia, and region - this has clearly shown to be the case in the copper book, found near Kostur, and translated by a Greek linguist, and writing in Pirin Macedonia, and regions around Skopje, and as far as Serbia. The ancient Macedonian language might still be an unknown, but it certainly wasn't Greek. If Slavic was in use in ancient Macedonia, and beyond (south of the Danube), I'm putting my money on that.

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            • TrueMacedonian
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 3812

              #7


              Languages:
              Greek 99% (official), other 1% (includes English and French)

              What a joke of a plastic nation!

              But that's not all. This is an even bigger joke.

              Ethnic groups:
              population: Greek 93%, other (foreign citizens) 7% (2001 census)
              note: percents represent citizenship, since Greece does not collect data on ethnicity


              Hmmmm I wonder why it doesn't collect data on ethnicity
              Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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              • NikodimMKD
                Banned
                • Apr 2009
                • 187

                #8
                Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
                https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/gr.html

                Languages:
                Greek 99% (official), other 1% (includes English and French)

                What a joke of a plastic nation!

                But that's not all. This is an even bigger joke.

                Ethnic groups:
                population: Greek 93%, other (foreign citizens) 7% (2001 census)
                note: percents represent citizenship, since Greece does not collect data on ethnicity


                Hmmmm I wonder why it doesn't collect data on ethnicity

                Maybe because they are ashamed to say 93% gypsies...

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                • TrueMacedonian
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3812

                  #9

                  page 301

                  page 523


                  And page xvi, this is interesting because this is exactly how Bulgarian should be defined when mentioned in the same sentence as Macedonian;

                  Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                  • TrueMacedonian
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3812

                    #10
                    A video made by one of the readers of this forum

                    YouTube - SIMILAR BETWEEN SANSKRIT AND MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE
                    Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                    • Daskalot
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4345

                      #11
                      nice to see videos of our findings! Spread the word! The Truth about Macedonia needs to be heard! everywhere.
                      Macedonian Truth Organisation

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                      • Pelister
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2742

                        #12
                        This is a historical fact.

                        The problem is that the Macedonian government does not seem to know what a fact is, nor have any idea how to use facts to defend themselves and stand up for Macedonians, who desperately want these negotiations to end.

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                        • TrueMacedonian
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3812

                          #13





                          What are your thoughts to the following sentence;

                          Thus Modern Macedonian may be regarded as todays nearest relative of the classical language of the Slavs.
                          Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                          • Bratot
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2855

                            #14
                            Another thing saying that the basis of all slavic languages was Macedonian speech that was spread later on in the well known mission of Kiril i Metodij.
                            The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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                            • Risto the Great
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15658

                              #15
                              Thus Modern Macedonian may be regarded as todays nearest relative of the classical language of the Slavs.
                              I think the entire article is 99% correct. It almost looks like it was written by a Macedonian!

                              However, to say that modern Macedonian is the nearest relative to the classical language of the Macedonians of 1000 years ago is misleading for a couple of reasons:
                              1. I am not sure the texts of Kiril & Metodi were in fact the language of the Macedonians at the time or in fact a language utilised for wider comprehension. If this is the case, it would be wrong to call the language Old Macedonian and Old Church Slavonic would probably be more appropriate.
                              2. Modern Macedonian has evolved in much the same way that modern English has in comparison to Olde English. There are closer languages to Old Church Slavonic.
                              Risto the Great
                              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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