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  • indigen
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 1558

    Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
    They are contradicting themselves, as usual. On the one hand they are asking Nimitz to cease the negotiations:

    On the other, they talk about Macedonia's 'commitment' to participate in the negotiations and complain about Greece rejecting many proposals (so what? none of those proposals were acceptable to Macedonians) and putting a veto on Macedonia's entry in NATO and the EU as 'fyrom':

    It's typical of the UMD, they're trying to present this image of patriotism while at the same time using past capitulations of Macedonian governments as indications of our 'commitment' to negotiations, when in actual fact it is a 'commitment' to dispose of our historical identity. Their pro-Macedonian government and pro-USA stance will never allow them to be truly in the service of the Macedonian people, they will remain the lapdogs for foreign and internal detractors, as they have done thus far.
    UMD Meets with UN Envoy Ambassador Nimetz PDF Print E-mail
    Friday, 15 April 2011


    April 15, 2011 – New York, NY – The United Macedonian Diaspora (“UMD”) met yesterday with the United Nations (“UN”) Special Envoy, Mediator Matthew Nimetz, in New York. During the meeting UMD stressed the unprecedented resolution asking the Republic of Macedonia to negotiate over its official name. These imposed “name negotiations” have de facto deprived the basic right of self-identification from the millions of Macedonians worldwide, and the UMD delegation used the opportunity to call once again for their immediate termination.
    UMD once again underscored that the “name negotiations” between Macedonia and Greece are merely used as a smoke screen to veil the state-sponsored human rights violations against ethnic Macedonians living in Greece.
    I don't agree with this, though that claim is also one of many other reasons!

    Furthermore, while Macedonia has demonstrated its commitment to partake in these mediations, Greece on the other hand, has continued to decline many proposals that have been put forward, and has been vetoing Macedonia’s membership in Euro-Atlantic organizations, such as NATO and the EU.
    Basically, the way I read the above statement, the UMD and Co are trying to pressure HellASS into accepting the current "reasonable" (in their treasonous eyes!) propositions accepted or proposed by the VASSALS in Skopje, e.g. Rep. of Macedonia (Skopje) for international use without changing the Constitution (or "Constitutional Name" for domestic use) to reflect the new international name. The "call to end the name negotiations" by UMD and accomplices, in my view, should be seen for what it is - VASSAL POLITICAL POSTURING against Greek desire for FINAL DECONSTRUCTION via one name for all use (erga omnes) demand.

    Unsurprisingly, the ongoing UN-mediated agenda faces public criticism because Greece’s official state-sponsored position allegedly violated Article 11 of the United Nations Interim Accord, and is presently at issue in litigation before the International Court of Justice at The Hague.
    Basically giving the nod of approval to the treasonous and suicidal ICJ case.

    The delegation led by UMD President Metodija A. Koloski consisted of George Atanasoski, President of the Macedonian Alliance and the largest Diaspora investor in Macedonia, civil rights attorney and one of UMD’s founders Steve Gligorov, producer of New York’s Macedonian Radio Hour, Vladimir Naumovski, and former Macedonian Minister of Foreign Investment (2006-2008) and current UMD Advisory Council member, Gligor Tashkovich.
    My identification of those in the photo, starting from left to right, is as follows: Gligor Tashkovich, Steve Gligorov, Nimitz, George Atanasoski, Vladimir Naumovski and Meto Koloski.

    From what I can see here, "Makedonska Alijansa" and George Atanasoski have now (or earlier) joined the list of former "patriots" that have bitten the dust and are now part of the cheering squad for the Ramkovist VASSALS running the show in Skopje!
    Last edited by indigen; 04-16-2011, 08:04 PM.

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    • Risto the Great
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 15658

      The UMD has been frightfully consistent.
      Risto the Great
      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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      • mango
        Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 142

        Documentary about Greek collaborators in WWII

        YouTube - Nazi Collaborators 10 - The Greek Collaborator (Part 1)

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        • Onur
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 2389

          If Greeks thinks that their claims of Anatolia&Istanbul is valid because of eastern Roman empire than why would Italian invasion of Greece would be absurd? Italians just wanted to get what they belonged to them during Roman empire.

          I believe both claims are absurd but if Istanbul is Greek than Greece very well might be a Roman province. As for the Greek collaborators, they were just bowing to their former Roman masters, thats it.
          Last edited by Onur; 05-18-2011, 08:19 AM.

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          • cultea
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 126

            You may be interested in this older episode of the TV show "the Files". One has to translate it. Sorry, if it has been posted before. It can also be found in You-Tube in 5 or 6 parts.

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            • DedoAleko
              Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 969

              This sashe ivanovski (people say) works for tv sonce.Look what he is saying on fb:




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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                For crying out loud. Will any real leaders please stand up!
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • Macedonian_Nationalist
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 407

                  Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                  For crying out loud. Will any real leaders please stand up!

                  These people are smoking something strong

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                  • Stojacanec
                    Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 809

                    With people like this, now wander Macedonia is in the predicament its in.

                    Every day I hear leaders saying "We're not going to do anything that compromises our identity, nationality....." What does that mean anyway?

                    That must be the cheapest throw away line currently in Macedonia.

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                    • DedoAleko
                      Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 969

                      After only two weeks broadcasting, TV Sonce cancels Sase Ivanovski's "Analitiko".

                      izvor: http://www.libertas.mk/%D0%BF%D0%BE-...%D0%B5-%D1%98/
                      Last edited by DedoAleko; 01-11-2013, 03:07 AM.

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                      • Makedonska_Kafana
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2642

                        Originally posted by DedoAleko View Post
                        After only two weeks broadcasting, TV Sonce cancels Sase Ivanovski's "Analitiko".

                        izvor: http://www.libertas.mk/%D0%BF%D0%BE-...%D0%B5-%D1%98/
                        Something major has changed with TVSonce ever since George made the POOR choice to support the UMD and the Greek "Ventilator"- A huge error and a dead end. Could, the Bitove family and Macedonia2025 be next to feel the mighty curse of the UMD aka Macedonian Human Rights Violators?

                        MACEDONIA WAS NEVER NORTH AMERICAN

                        NOTE: George, had said he had ONE FLAG so now he has become another human rights violator indirectly by association.

                        nikoj nema pravo da pregovara za moeto ime.mp4 - YouTube

                        AWARD (UMD) PERFORMANCE
                        Last edited by Makedonska_Kafana; 01-24-2013, 07:32 PM.
                        http://www.makedonskakafana.com

                        Macedonia for the Macedonians

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